10 Wonderful things and 10 bad things about the audiophile world.


10 Problems with the audiophile world.

#1  Speakers and amps need to be made synergistically.

#2  Room acoustics are so much more important than they realize.

#3. High End audio companies rarely show scientific measurements. Why not?

#4  Audiophiles have very little knowledge of music production.

#5  The dealer system in high end audio is not working.

#6  Snake oil is not loathed but treated as an amusing possibility for better sound.

#7  Expensive equipment, confirmation bias, ego, no standards, will eat people who don’t like expensive cables.

#8  Very little blind listening tests.

#9  No use of audio files showing differences in components, before and after.

#10 Audiophiles make subjective decisions claiming to be scientifically objective.

 

10 Wonderful things about the audiophile world.

#1   People who love music.

#2  Smart people who are passionate about the latest technology.

#3  Audiophiles rarely eat people for not liking their new expensive cables.

#4  Being an audiophile is a great hobby.

#5  Being an audiophile is mentally healing.

#6  Audiophiles are trying to make fidelity and quality paramount unlike other industries.

#7  Audiophiles are a strong community.

#8  Samsung / Harden is making lots of money.

#9  Audiophiles are always moving toward a goal.

#10 Audiophiles appreciate beauty.

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#1  Speakers and amps need to be made synergistically.

Why "made"? Why not just matched?

#3. High End audio companies rarely show scientific measurements. Why not?
 
Would they guide people? Why? My sense is that most do not know what to do with them, and those who think they do often overestimate single data points.
 
#4  Audiophiles have very little knowledge of music production.

Why is this relevant? I don't know much about food production, either, but I'm capable of tasting, grading, discriminating what I eat. 

#6  Snake oil is not loathed but treated as an amusing possibility for better sound.

I've never seen an adequate definition of snake oil. Do you have one?

#7  Expensive equipment, confirmation bias, ego, no standards, will eat people who don’t like expensive cables.

Why is this bad?

#10 Audiophiles make subjective decisions claiming to be scientifically objective.

Isn't it a scientific fact that they subjectively preferred X over Y? Not sure what you're getting at.

#9  Audiophiles are always moving toward a goal.

Is a circle a goal?

#8 Very little blind listening tests.

I made many simple blind tests in my few years of mechanical, electrical and acoustical incremental process of optimization for my system ...

Then you means by blind test : double blind test protocol ... guess why it is generally useless for me and any other audiophile optimizing his system ?😁

Only objectivist fanatic promote double blind test as the only "proof" of a small change ...

For small change i dont need public validated proof because all ears, all designs and all gear pieces and all acoustic rooms or all headphones etc are not equals ...

For big change i dont need double blind test public validated proof either ... A company may need it to sell it , not me designing my own system with gear pieces i use my ears.. ...

#10 Audiophiles make subjective decisions claiming to be scientifically objective.

You means here without doubt without saying it explicitly :  subjectivist audiophiles ...

But the reverse is true for objectivist audiophiles ...Then i will add this to your tenth point :

They appeal to an objective limited set of electrical measurement called specs as the only ground for ANY subjective perception ...

Psycho-acoustics research rules audio, not mere electrical specs, well measured or not ...

 

 

 

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#2 Room acoustics are so much more important than they realize.

This is true subjectivist audiophiles underestimated the impact of room acoustic on their beautiful loved gear pieces ...😊

 

But objectivists audiophiles, enamoured by electrical measurements tools and double blind test, ignore also that electrical specs of the gear matter way less than the room/speakers/ears settings and psycho-acoustics principles ...

 

#9 Audiophiles are always moving toward a goal.

Here you means deluded consumers obsessed by upgrades collection or you means objectivist fanatic in a crusade to debunk audiophiles no ?😁

As a non-subjectivist and a non-objectivist audiophile myself , my goal is never moving when i walk because my goal is inside me : learning acoustics and loving music ...

 

« A single set of measures cannot say all the story to tell , because all possible measures, known and unknown, are not equals » -- Anonymus acoustician

«Do we need a new theory as much, if not much more than a new fact ? »-- Anonymus hearing aids designer

 I must thanks the OP here for his ten wonderful things ... I only add my grain of salt about one of the 10 points ... 😊

my deepest respect to him ...