A true believer

I like to look at the pictures and descriptions of the various systems belonging to our fellow Audiogon members. Personally I admire the most humble system. But some times I see one that just leaves me shaking my head in amusement.

I was looking at the featured systems today and found one that consisted of three components that reproduced music. A cd player ($7700), a integrated amp. ($4000), a pair of speakers ($10,500). Total $22000. A very nice system. But, and I mean BUT, another $71,431 in cables, tweaks, stands. Things that sometimes in the tiniest increments help in the reproduction of music.

Just saying.
"Is there a wire that will make my Lsi15's sound like the Wilson MAXX??"

I don't think that there is a speaker cable that can do that. While there is no way to do all the scientific, double blind, etc. tests that some would demand (just the boredom alone would make it impossible) most of us ha made some effort to do some testing. And, I think, most of us agree that sometimes you can hear slight differences, most of the time no difference.

So, should you decide that you like the Polk sound but just want to improve upon them until they can compete with the Wilson MAXX, cables alone won't do it. You have to buy new power cords, interconnects, and speaker cable. They have to be expensive because only the expensive ones work, even though they are wire bought from bulk wire manufacturers, not some kind of new formula, and covered with dialectic material bought from bulk manufacturers, not some new formula. Then you must have hospital grade outlets (which only means they grab tighter so the plug can't easily be kicked out). You must go through a power conditioner not just a simple one to one isoloation transformer, which may be good enough for the extremely high tech industries but not for audio. Each solid state piece of equipment that doesn't reproduce sound through vibration unlike a Turntable, must be put on a vibration free stand that must be accompanied by a "scientific" white paper designed by someone who worked in NASA (all you have to do is a internet search, "Yup, there he is, says right here, janitor at NASA warehouse." And, that stand has to be very expensive or it won't work.

You do all three of those things then your Polk speakers will make your neighbors jaw drop, your wife who doesn't like music sit and listen or at least call out from three rooms away, and entitles you to make claims on how you were skeptical but, it made a big, no jaw dropping, no giant killing, no it was so much better you are going to keep the cables and buy even less expensive speakers because why throw your money away on expensive speakers or any expensive pre amp, cd player, tt, or amp.

If you don't read my posts carefully you would think that my belief is that cables, conditioners, stands, are a bunch of nonesense. A glance at either one of my posted systems show I know each can be helpful.

Wire can, in some systems, make small improvements. RFI aside. But, never the claims you read and most cables don't make the slightest improvement over what you can get at radio shack. The most common analogy that someone that understands electricity and the flow of electrons makes when trying to describe amperage is the flow of water through various diameter water hoses. When you go read the white papers on cable websites you almost always read some "scientific" explanation about the flow of electrons and words like choking, allowing the music to flow like there are musical notes trying to get through the cable. There is no choking of the flow of electrons, a slowing down or stoppage over short wire runs in audio. There is so little amperage relative to the gage wire we use. If not, what you would have is heat but that's another story.

I also believe that some power conditioning can help audio. When it works it is not what you hear it is what you don't hear. You can obtain the proverbially black background. But, it doesn't take expensive electronics in boxes with led lights. Wire windings, lots of windings, in other words isolation transformers make a difference that can be both heard and measured, this is not snake oil or voo doo.

Isolation stands. Grew out of the turntable years. Absolutely scientific and easily demonstrated to anybody. Music through vinyl is based on vibration, external vibration obviously needs to be minimized. But wait, we are solid state and digital now. Oh, s**t, I own a company that makes stuff that decreases vibrations, what will happen? I know, convince people that it never had anything to do with the transfer of sound from a record to a cartridge to a amp. through vibration. That like RFI vibration effects everything audio. Yeah, that's it. Poor electronics, poor speakers just add vibration killers.

very informative post. I tend to agree with everything you said in your reply. I did look at your system pictures and was wondering if your room is an addition to your home. Very cozy and beautiful area. It looks like something I have been planning to do. I was planning to enclose and extend my patio as a listening room. What are the dimensions of the room? A new room is what I really need to improve my system. I hope your medical treatment makes you completely well.