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After market Motor + Belt drive for Verdier

I have been looking to upgrade my TT motor and belt drive for some time now. I use a Nouvelle Verdier and its only sore point is its motor and silk thread drive. It is not bad, it gets the job done. The sound is neat and in general non-offensive. However, when I used a 0.25 inch magnetic tape (reel to reel) to drive the platter the overall sound became more dynamic, voices sounded younger, instruments sounded happier. It was as if the pitch of all the instruments became more realistic. But then I also heard more of the irregularities of the motor rotation, the timing of instruments messed up a little. The background was no more as clean as the thread drive.

This told me two things:
1. Silk thread is good but it affects music in a way that makes the performance a bit sleepy.

2. The stock motor is not good enough to accommodate a tighter coupling with the platter.

So, I am now looking for after market motor and belt drive solution. I looked at Teres motor but for that to work they require a sensor to be placed under the platter but my TT doesnt have enough gap between the platter and plinth to place the sensor. I am looking for some viable suggestions here.

A friend of mine suggested me to consider a flywheel between the motor and the platter which will absorb the motor irregularities. I dont know if it is worth a try because I see many good TTs do not have a flywheel, that means a good motor is all I need I guess but I am open to the flywheel idea also.
pani
maril555
619 posts
 
Thank you Pani,
That line is not braided, is it?
How soft is the line, comparing to the silk thread?
Another idea- Walker Audio recommend 2-4 mm silk belt for their Proscenium Black Diamond TT, they supply the belt with the TT
I'll contact Lloyd Walker, who happens to be a member of out local Audiophile club, with some questions
Best
pani OP
1,219 posts
 
Maril555, yes you are right, it is not braided. It is quite a bit harder than the silk thread but still soft ennough to be used a string. Can you not borrow Mr.Walker's belt to try out ?
maril555
619 posts
 
I'll talk to Walker and I see, if I can try it
marty_t
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I use braided fishing line, non teflon, 10 pound weight with the original motor mounted close to the tt. Big improvement over silk thread, available at Wal Mart. Also I use a motorcycle battery along with a small battery charger available at Sears. I insert a 10-15 volt dc to dc converter in the line to the motor. This regulates the voltage at exactly 12 volts dc with a varience of .02 volts until the battery voltage drops to 10 volts, model PST-1212-8 available from Powerstream Lund, 801-764-9060. I believe this was about $100. I use the optional hardeded ball just barley touching with a Redpoint 4 pound weight on top of the record. The table is mounted on 3 Boston carbon blocks elevated off the springs. The improvement was like listening to a different tt.
maril555
619 posts
 
Marty t,
when using the battery- did you convert the motor to DC first? And how exactly did you do that?
I'm looking at battery power for my Verdier, as well.
Do you know by any chance, waht is the record weight, that is featured on many Verdier pictures websites- looks similar to yours- tall SS cylinder with some LED lights at the bottom?
I have Micro Seiki ST-10 weight, but it doesn't fit the Verdier spindle, which is larger diameter, than my Technics Sp-10
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