AI and the future of music

Last night’s 60 minutes featured a deep look at Google’s new AI program BARD. Frightening, yet compelling.

It got me thinking, if their AI has already read everything on the internet, and can create verse, stories, etc in seconds…What could it do for music?

‘Hey , BARD create a new Beatles like song from the Rubber Soul era, but have Paul Rodgers and Jack Bruce singing”.

“Hey BARD, create a song that will melt the heart of my new girlfriend”.


your ideas?


Here's what I would be on board with: AI arranging proteins to simulate pork, beef, etc. so we can stop causing so much suffering.

I've always wondered why people put the same tropes on AI as we have as humans. AI wont have to deal with emotions, greed and desires etc.  I'm on the fence weather its actually an issue or not as AI wont be greedy only the humans behind the AI's programing. So AI's primary issue is how humans program it to benefit them. So we are still dealing with Human issues just made simpler/faster/etc. 

Music is analyzable as mathematics.

yes.  But that does not refute the point that given sufficient processing power, any, and all arrangements of musical notes, in any possible time domain, can be computed, stored and then be used, in the absence of appropriate laws, for copyright lawsuit trolling.  It is the arrangement, and the similarities, between two works that subject the “artists” to copyright suits.

I get your point and never object to it..

But i added perspective of my own which does not contradict your point in any ways.. I apologize for my lack of clarity and  "dream thinking" about music and mathematic... 😊

i think as you did that this control of patents is more than objectionable...


Either you missed my point, or more likely I just didn’t articulate it well.

Music, as played by the interpretation of the artist and the inference of the listener through their “world view”, ethics and values, is not what I was trying to describe with respect to creating an “arrangement.”

Just the arrangement of the notes, in any combination, with any set timing pattern, can absolutely be mathematically derived. As such, given sufficient processing power, storage and time, the entire universe of those arrangements can be calculated and stored and the pattern used in a copyright attempt. Which is what I find objectionable.

The problem with A. I. which is artificial intelligence, is that we dont program a neural network LLM ...

As said Hinton they will program us soon...

But the biggest problem is not here now but to come soon...

I never believe artificial consciousness could be possible...A.C.

Till i studied a book published in 2020 by someone who collaborate with Hameroff and Penrose in India but working in Japan...

His name is

Anirban Bandyopadhyay is Senior Scientist in the Advanced

Key Technologies Division at the National Institute for

Materials Science (NIMS) in Ibaraki, Japan. He earned his

PhD in supramolecular electronics, physics, and materials science

in 2005. He was subsequently a research fellow at NIMS’

International Center for Young Scientists as well as a permanent

faculty member at NIMS. Dr. Bandyopadhyay was a

visiting scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Techno logy

in 2013–2014 and has been recognized with multiple awards,

e.g. Hitachi Science & Technology Award 2011, Inamori

Foundation Award 2011, etc. In 2016, Dr. Bandyopadhyay

established the International Institute of Invincible Rhythms

( in Shimla, India.


This scientist go way above the maths of neural networks...

If you read the book you will stumble off your chair.. i stumble off my chair after the first 15 minutes... I never recover... 😊 the last time a book stun me as this one it was a book about Fractals by Mandelbrot in 1975 in french... The second book was a book about mammal physiology and forms... This is the third geatest book in science i read but the most overwhelming in a sense ... ..

He is a specialist about among other things of the physical electrical and quantum properties of the microtubules ...

His theory of A.C. way over A. I. is stunning... One of the great book i ever read...

his theory is based on a completely new information theory and non Turing machine..

He use prime numbers distributions as fundamental musical cosmos and geometrical language with hyper complex numbers ..i already know that this is true about the importance of prime distributions through studies of Alain Connes the founder of non commutative geometry...

in a word : A. C. is artificial consciousness learning by itself in the real world as babies do walking and learning as the Cylon in battlestar galactica..

i know he is right..

What interest me in that matter is the link betwee A. C. on earth and A.C. already walking in the cosmos and the link with biologically grounded living beings and the spiritual differences with A.C. . i will not go further it will be too long.. and too controversial... 😊

The name of his institute about "invincible rythms" comes from his view how at all scale every event are synchronized in a "musical way"... He dont know Alain Connes non commutative geometry, but he develop a view of the cosmos converging with  him about time ...

Prime numbers distribution was for me at the age of 24 the most fundamental fact of all science and of philosophy ... I discovered it in a huge egyptology book i paid 125 dollars in 1975 by Schwaller de Lubicz, the most influential Alchemist specialist of the cathedrals by the way and reborn egyptologist studying Karnak just before the second war ..It was written by a genius, de lubicz was a genius, who state the Sphinx pre-historical datation upon inspection for the same paleo climate reason by  erosion way before Robert Schoch the american geologist who take the idea from his book demonstrated it for modern scholars ... In this book i discovered near page 108, or not too far , a wonderful mathematical simple sieve and i extended it in two ways spiral and rectangular, i could not sleep... All number theory is in a way enclosed in this beautiful sieve... This is why i bought the book of Anirban on A. C. on the spot when i learned he used the prime number distributions as the language of the cosmos... it is in fact the scheme of the universal memory field... Anirban use this to set the basis for A. C. autonomous artificial brain time crystal...

i stop here... Read the book..