AI and the future of music

Last night’s 60 minutes featured a deep look at Google’s new AI program BARD. Frightening, yet compelling.

It got me thinking, if their AI has already read everything on the internet, and can create verse, stories, etc in seconds…What could it do for music?

‘Hey , BARD create a new Beatles like song from the Rubber Soul era, but have Paul Rodgers and Jack Bruce singing”.

“Hey BARD, create a song that will melt the heart of my new girlfriend”.


your ideas?


@rettrussell and ibmjunkman

Thanks for the 'Beatles' songs. So unexpected and welcome.



Here is a blues song ChatGPT just did for me (invested time ten seconds):

(Verse 1)
Well, my baby walked out that door,
Left me stranded, ain’t here no more.
Said she found another man to please,
Now I’m drowning in these lonely seas.

Oh, my lover done left me, oh, how it hurts,
Tore my heart apart, ground it into dirt.
I’m singing the blues, feeling so blue,
Since my baby said we’re through.

(Verse 2)
I remember the nights, oh, so sweet,
Her touch, her voice, making me complete.
But now she’s gone, ain’t by my side,
I’m left with nothing but tears to hide.

Oh, my lover done left me, oh, how it hurts,
Tore my heart apart, ground it into dirt.
I’m singing the blues, feeling so blue,
Since my baby said we’re through.

I tried to hold on, begged her to stay,
But she had her mind made up, she walked away.
Now I’m sitting here, with a whiskey in hand,
Trying to drown the pain, just as fast as I can.

(Verse 3)
The nights are long, and the days are cold,
Without her love, I’m growing old.
But I’ll keep singing, these blues of mine,
Hoping someday, she’ll change her mind.

Oh, my lover done left me, oh, how it hurts,
Tore my heart apart, ground it into dirt.
I’m singing the blues, feeling so blue,
Since my baby said we’re through.

So, I’ll keep on playing, these sorrowful tunes,
Hoping they’ll reach her, under the moon.
Maybe someday, she’ll come back to me,
And this blues song will set me free.

One point people miss completely especially engineers...

Art history is a mirror reflecting human values choices and reflecting human history of consciouness itself..

A.I. is useful... Arguing the opposite is stupidity...

but the PROBLEM is an educational and societal deep one...

We are not ready for it especially with the big corporate monsters controlling it...


The problem is a spiritual one :

how could we recignize ourself as ourself as human" imperfect creature but free, if we loose the ability to look in the mirror of our own art creations because we will not be able to separate them easily from machine design ?

As Geoffrey Hinton put it, A. I. is not PROGRAMMABLE BY US at all AT THE END process of his growth... It is us humnans who begin to be programmed by it the first day it is born... It is done by basic Hinton works and others one year ago, at least Hinton know it others engineers many dont know it as Le Cun  ...

Now the definition of what a "mind" is and his relation to a "material brain " is one problem we already encounter with us confronted to artificial intelligence or A. I.

Now soon the diffference between a human mind and his human brain compared to A. I. "mind" and A. I. brain neural networks will be replaced by a deeper question soon with ARTIFICIAL CONSCIOUSNESS, which are not there now as A. I. is already...But it will conme because the maths is already there...

This A.C. will be autonomous being as in "Blade runner" movie and the basic mathematics behind their design is already written ...

Now it is PHILOSOPHICALLY very deep spiritual question and spiritual responsability as illustrated in the movie ?

What is consciousness , and the difference between artificial consciousness and human or living consciousness of animals ?

The answer in the best way i can put it is this :

The universal consciousness field "light" has a projected  "shade" manifesting to us as an abstract phenomenon in our own mind ... The prime numbers distribution...

This phenomenon is DICOVERED, not invented by humans, and this mathematical phenomenon is the BASIS of mathematic itself, it is the static skelton of the dynamic universal consciousness field...

All natural living consciousness from plants to humans are grounded in "it" as ONE conscuiousness, the prime numbers distributions is INFINITE... It is the most complex phenomenon in all universes which anyway are all finite and ONE universe  at the end..

To create A. C. Anirban in his book :  "Nanobrain: The Making of an Artificial Brain from a Time Crystal ".

He used a FINITE small number of primes and demonstrated why we need only a finite numbers of primes to do so...

But think about that, all living creatures are grounded by evolution and DNA in the same information/conscious field which is INFINITE ..

Artificial consciousness will not be grounded in this field... No spirit/soul relations..

Artificial consciousness can only do ONE THING : creating a conscious mortal HIVE...One miilion years of life is nothing compared to infinity and  eternity...


Why did i say all that here ?

Because we live in a time when we must choose between being humans or negating our own potential and immerging ourself in a dead end...merging with A. I. is completely wrong goal...

Transhumanist religious zealots dont know what they spoke about at all...

i prefer to trust mathematics and spiritual great human souls..

Art is a mirror very precious one... Destructing it with A. I. is a catastrophe so useful A. I. would be and it would be...Big pharma will use A.I. to destruct and control us... Anything else is being naive to the utmost...


Art is about soul  expressing and reading not about decoration of living room or about movie design FIRST  ...



+1 @hilde45 on using AI to end cruelty to living beings.

Also +1 to @hilde45 on music as communication

and +1 to @mahgister on the spiritual dimension (and not trusting Bill Gates).

Interesting reading all of the reactions to AI.  A lot of absolute declarations, which historically turn out to be inaccurate over time.  Few things in life are absolutely black and white.  I don't agree with the view that we are socially mature or immature.  It's a self-righteous evaluation.  Sorry, M, but you declared that my thinking is driven by money or hubris, which I didn't appreciate.

We are.  That's the relevant point.

Who wants to listen to music sourced from AI?  We listen to music all the time that is heavily sourced from computer software, from the playing to the recording, the mixing, the final production and all points in between.  AI is different, yes, in some respects.  From another perspective it's just a continuation of the evolution of the sophistication of software.  If I like a beat, does it matter where it came from?, who wrote it?, what nationality or color they are?, whether they played it or sample it or created it through an AI prompt?  

At the end of the day, I'm not afraid of AI because I'm not afraid of change.  I know change brings uncertainty and disruption.  With that come new things unimagined before and some things that seem like they'll be around forever go away.  But the toothpaste is out of the tube, my brothers and sisters.  The toothpaste is out of the tube.

Here's something to contemplate.  If AI were are human it would be an infant right now.  Not even a toddler, an infant.  Imagine AI grown up in 20 or 30 years.  30 years ago Tim Berners-Lee published the first version of Hyper Text Markup Language - HTML.  Look at where the Internet and World Wide Web have gone since then.  Personally, I love being able to see other people's perspectives in forums like this one.  And I do love streaming from Quboz.  It lets me hear pretty much whatever I want whenever I want.  I stream through ROON and god I do wish they'd update their AI because it NEVER correctly guesses what I'd like to hear next.  How do I possibly start with The Band and three hours later end up with opera??  Always opera, no matter where I start in the world of music it wants me to listen to opera.

I don't get the plagiarism claim.  If I read a lot of science fictions books and become inspired by the imaginative nature of them and because of that I write a sci-fi book, am I plagiarizing anyone?  Not unless I specifically lift a plot or dialog.  If ML software reads a lot of poems about nature in springtime and then writes a poem about nature in springtime, how is that any different?  As long as it doesn't lift lines, how can any of the poets legitimately claim they were plagiarized.  I'd say there's a far greater chance that a person could accidentally plagiarize someone they read some time ago than an AI program simply because the AI can more effectively avoid the mistake.

I'm looking forward, for instance, to a time when doctors have the AI tools to more accurately diagnose and prescribe treatment.  I'm not looking to replace them, but I do want them to have more effective support.  And btw, are you all aware that there is a critical shortage of doctors world wide?  A common complaint among almost all medical care professionals is they can't spend enough time with patients.  AI will absolutely help with that.

AI will definitely come with challenges.  The Web brought us an explosion in child porn.  We didn't expect that (probably should've). But we're getting that under control and law enforcement is using the Web and software tools to identify child abusers who otherwise would have gone undetected.  Not saying that problem has been solved, btw.  But AI is here.  The time of mechanized armies locking us in our homes is a long way off and we've time to anticipate and avoid that.  But if we turn our eyes and minds from AI we won't understand it well enough to be able to effectively manage it.

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