Allnic Puritas vs. Koetsu Stone Body

Hello!

Yes, please:
I still use Jadis JP80MC 25th Anniversary preamplifier with build in MC/MM phonostage and dedicated JA80 25th Anniversary power amplifiers.

As for loudspeaker I am using very beloved Franco Serblin Ktema and found them fantastic with Jadis!

After many years of break I am building analog rig from scratches.
So at the moment I just ordered Raven AC turntable with battery supply and feet sourced from Black Night.

At the moment no arm and no cartridge :-)
Good point - I can choose whatever I want.

At the moment I would like to utilize MC phono section of Jadis preamp - but it will work for cartridges >0.3mV or MM section with SUT.

I found that Jadis preamp works better rather with SUT and MM input.

I like tonearms with ebony armwand so I searched Artemis Labs, Schroeder (too long waiting time!), Reed and new interesting Primary Control arm (no reviews yet!).

I am considering ending with two arms and one cartridge suitable more for rock music (Lyra Atlas?) and second one for more euphonic jazz and classical listening (Kondo, Koetsu?)

As I wrote before I appreciate old classic tonearm like FR, but heaving no good source I would prefer current production tonearms.

Any suggestions would be warm welcome.

Dear Lotus, I am not sure what you don't agree with. If you mean to say that you don't agree that the Reed 3P when mated with the Puritas can often result in sibilance, then I of course yield to your superior experience with that combo, of which I have none. If there are real experiential data to support your contention regarding the mating of this particular tonearm with this particular cartridge, a pattern that has repeated itself, so be it.

If you disagree that there are many causes of sibilance, many or most having nothing to do with the choice of tonearm, so long as the tonearm is a "good" one, which was the real point of my post, then that is another matter but not one of earth-shattering importance. We can still occupy the same universe.

Dear Milimetr: Yes, you are right the Jadis performs better through its MM input but in both ways: MC or MM fails/a little short on the bass management.

Even that your lovely speakers can't go lower than 26hz ( I don't know its db deviation at that frequency. ) there is information recorded below that speaker bass spec and certainly the cartridge can retrieval if it's surrounded by the system with that hability. We have to remember that music is formed by notes and harmonics.

As important as is the tonearm to mate any cartridge the phono stage is critical and always makes a difference for the better or worst depends on the phono stage quality level performance.

As a music lover and an audiophile and through my experiences, with " hundred " of different audio systems, IMHO what determine the main differences on quality performance between different audio systems is the audio system owns habilities to play/works in near " perfect " way the bass frequency range, its bass management. Electronics are very important to fulfil that criterion. Of course that speaker/room are important too but speakers can reproduce what the other system links send it to the speakers.

IMHO and due that seems to me that you want a first rate analog performance level you should contemplate as an option a better phonolinepreamp that could make clear justice to your future analog rig.

No one cartridge can shows its " glorious " if through the phono stage this unit is adding and loosing cartridge signal information: I think we need here not only accuracy but neutrality too, to leave the music flow with its natural color and natural " emotions ". Don't you think?

About wood tonearm wand you can choose not only the Schroeder you mentioned but the Talea or Da Vinci to name other options.

Cartridges?, other that the ones you name it exist other top contenders that can fulfil your needs/priorities with different kind of music: Ortofon, VdH, Clearaudio, Da Vinci, Benz Micro, Dynavector, etc, etc.
Btw, price is not the important factor but quality performance level. Not always the more expensive performs better.

Just by curiosity. With those several top graded TT options out there what do you " move " to the Raven's alternative?

Have a good and happy " hunting ".

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.

Lyra Atlas works beautifully with my Reed 3Q and TW. For me, it has enough bass and slam to satisfy my occasional pop/rock listening but I tend to listen to mostly classical, opera, vocal music, piano and the like. I know some of my friends prefer Graham over Reed. You definitely will get more bass and slam for rock with Graham but I just could not get the same magic in the mid range with Graham as I could with Reed. After playing around with the new Graham 12 inch arm for almost a year, I gave up and sold it to a friend of mine. One arm that perhaps could rival Graham for bass and have mid range that would be closer to Reed that I heard recently is Thales Simplicity. It was quite impressive on TW Raven One with Miyajima Kansui. However, I only heard it briefly at my local dealer. I plan to listen to it more carefully in my system may be in the next 3-4 months but I am a bit too busy right now doing other things with my system so I will wait awhile until my system is a bit more settled before trying auditioning Thales.

Lotus, I heard Koetsu Onyx with TW Raven 10.5 arm/Raven One and it was just ok . I also tried Coralstone with Reed 3Q and Raven AC-1 and I was not impressed. Coralstone really is working much much better on my FR64s with Micro Seiki table. However, I don't have an arm board for FR 64s for TW so I don't know how Koetsu/FR combination would be with TW.