Any news about new DD/DTS upgrade on HDDVD?

"Any way, I don't have an hdmi audio option , but managed to get DD+ via analog 5.1, and it does sound much better than regular DD/DTS,although its also a bit down on db" (Ears)

Ears, describe "much better" please! How so? Sounds to me like it's the same limitations connecting this way as before, only with perhaps more potential resolution. I've never gotten good results connecting to the analog out's of a dvd player, and playing DD/DTS! PCM 2 channel? Now that's another story entirely!

Flrnlamb, theres better resolution than double bit rate DTS as well as the higher bit rate DD available on some D-vhs tapes.
It almost sounds discrete for each channel with greater dynamics as well as cleaner sounding.
The reason you have to use analog or hdmi is because DD+ will not pass via analog or optical.
It does seem to be down a couple of db from the sd dvd versions...but plenty loud enough using analog.
The picture is pretty nice...but softer than the best d-vhs studio movies.
My advice is to try one from BB or some where with a return policy, and if you don't think its for you, bring it back.

If I end up bringing this one back, it will be because I am not interested in that many near future movie releases, most of which will also be on Blu Ray.

The biggest suprise for me has been the sd dvd playback, which is as good or better than all but the very best sd dvd players.

Anyone who trys one out should use 1080i only for the hd dvd movies....even if your display is 720p...and use analog 5.1 or hdmi for audio.

EARs, in line 4 you meant to use the word " coaxial" instead of analog 3rd word from the end I think. I am only pointing this out so others dont get confused.

"Flrnlamb, there's better resolution than double bit rate DTS as well as the higher bit rate DD available on some D-vhs tapes" (ears)

Not interested even remotely in Digital tape. This will be gone in no time...of this I'm most certain.

"The reason you have to use analog or hdmi is because DD+ will not pass via analog or optical" (ears)

This doesn't make sense. Do you mean "won't pass via digital/optical???"

I seriously have my doubts that connecting via multi-ch analog for DD/DTS+, or whatever, is going to be "ideal!".
Time will tell.

The DD+ signal will not pass via optical or coaxial....so it downgrades it to hi bit tate DTS....or at least your gear reads it as DTS...which is 15 db down on Warner titles.
Only Analog or Hdmi can handle the bandwidth of the DD+ signal.
Hdmi,as well as analog 5.1 on the Toshiba will pass DD+....but to be on the safe side....this player will never decode DTS-HD without downressing it in some form....so the best thing to do for those with patience, is wait for hd dvd and BD players with hdmi 1.3...which will not only decode all codecs, it will offer built in lip sync help also.

I ended up taking the player back to BB.
Its just so slow at loading and everything else..it will re-start the movie after pushing anything other than pause,it never remembers were you left off in the movie, I have had a dark blue screen instead of the movie a few times, as well as hdmi error codes.
Others have had the player freeze during playback, but mine only frooze while trying to start a disc a couple of times.

It took the manager at BB 3.5-4 minutes to get the hd dvd disc out of the player that I forgot after plugging it in, which I thought was ironic because he mentioned he thought these new players were rediculously slow just before this.

Also its far more sensitive to hum using analog cables than any player I have ever tried.

To some the picture as well as improved audio via analog or hdmi is worth the quirks....but I will wait for Blu Ray, and maybe buy another hd dvd player down the road when the quirks are worked out.