Anyone ditch the sub after large speaker purchase?


I am about to kick the subs to the curb. Having recently acquired a pair of custom made Classic Audio Loudspeakers T1.5 reference, they provide me with enough deep and articulate bass that I don’t even bother with using subs anymore. I mean prodigious amounts of bass...not the bass that is just heard, but also felt, even in the rear listening chairs at the back of the room, which is almost 30 feet away. It feels like I have subs with these new speakers.


Yeah, it’s when playing loud that the rear end of the room is so vigorously energized...and not because of nasty room acoustic anomalies, the seats pick up the pressurized air due to the room being pressurized with 300 tube watts per channel driving highly efficient field coil horn speakers with 18 inch downward firing bass driver and 15 inch forward firing bass driver.


In almost 25 years of sub use and integration with various systems, I find that my newly customized room designed around the principals of room mode mitigation, noise abatement, and damping resonances based on my experience in building secure sound proof spaces, has paid off.


There is nothing like playing music at low levels or loud levels with clarity and preciseness in bass when the stars are aligned and that is why I don’t feel the need for subs anymore. My bass is so awesome with these large almost 400 pound speakers and my amps enjoy driving them to room shaking levels if I played loud enough. Of course, the room investment itself was a considerable factor in my positive listening experience which at Its core is concrete all the way around except the ceiling.


When I stream music, I have to actually turn down the bass of the audio settings in my streamers audio settings. When playing vinyl, the bass goes so deep that I felt as if the subs were on, when in fact, they are not. I am tired or messing around with measurements and dialing in subs for now. It’s not needed and I see why people with large speakers don’t have subs. Perhaps, later on in this audio journey, I might experiment with some type of bass resonators, but I ask myself why? I have all what I need and am not missing anything in terms of bass.


Anyone else ditch the subs after large speaker purchase? What’s been your experiences?
audioquest4life
My stereo speakers have 3 pair of side mounted powered 8” woofers each that manage full range without the integration problems I had with subs. I even had a velodyne that came with a volume remote so I could adjust the sub level with the speakers level. I found my favorite sub setting was when I couldn’t hear it. They’re great for ht, but give me a pair of full range floorstanders for stereo any day.
My answer is 'kind of'...

When I decided to create separate home theatre and audio systems I built the system with full range floor standers with the intention of not having subwooofers.

Therefore I have a pair of Sonus farber Sonnetto Vs I use in my audio system.  The decision for no subs is based on several considerations including space, budget and my younger days of listening to music before subwoofers were common.

And my results are I enjoy listening to music as much as I always have. 
My mains use 18" woofers and are over 1000lbs ea and I still use my giant sub-bass horn from time to time. I will turn the massive near room sized sub off thinking I don't need it but later I find I do depends on music selections but when I need it I am glad it's there, nothing pressurizes a space like a giant sub-bass horn.
I've never felt the need for a sub with my IMF TLS-80's, which I got in the ...80's..., and still have.  Anything newer seems to want a sub.  This seems very much correlated to cabinet size!  WAF and home theater seem to favor subs, and the low frequency effects of modern music and sound effects likes a sub, or two, or more.
I recently purchased Focal Kanta 3 floor standing speakers. For 2 channel stereo I don't find any need for a sub woofer. I do use it when watching movies since I use the same speakers for a 5.1 system just different amps. Room size might matter thou.