ARE AUDIOPHILES OVERLY SENSITIVE BY NATURE?FEELINGS AND OPINIONS?


I have been an audiophile the last 20 years for the last 5 years I have worked with Infigo Audio as my industry affiliation.  It’s been my experience in business and audio conversations that there are 2 areas that are interesting. When giving opinions many audiophiles try to come off smarter than the people they are talking to. Also in conflict resolution if you have disagreements they are more willing to go to extremes. Has anyone else experienced this.  Some seem like they can tell you what to do? How to post etc. which to me is crazy. Most of us are 30, 40, 50, 60,70 plus.  Thoughts everyone?

calvinj

I beg to differ about simple basic fact in psycho-acoustic which are easy to find reading and easy to experiment with ...

For example i decreased substantially crosstalk between speakers on my desk using simple mechanical wood separation when listening music ... It is not a proposed solution for all but i spoke about it for discovering by ourself by experiment important fact about stereo speakers listenings ...

Nothing esoteric here ...

Simple basic psycho-acoustic fact adressing stereo impeding unrecognized by most crosstalk...

The same is true about Helmholtz resonators and speakers relation ...

The same is true about any basic concept as immersiveness or listener envelopment who are defined in acoustic and with which anyone can experiment for fun and learning ... It is more satisfying than most useless upgrade purchase blind by hype ...

Acoustics is the basic of audio not the gear specs so important it is nor the price tag ...

Then i dont use any "right" when i explain simple basic by proposing simple experiments ...😁😊

I answered because i am the rare one here saying that psycho-acoustic must be studied a bit by audiophiles more than upgrade product reviews and acoustic is more than room acoustic panels ...

Audio is way more complex and im-plicate multidisciplinary field than other hobby, hence there is controversies ...

I discovered the hard way that people who are hard objectivist and price tag branded name subjectivist are dead wrong ...They focus on the subjective or objective aspect of the gear ...

They neglect the psycho-acoustics and physical acoustic and the other two embeddings control as secondary to gear purchase or upgrades ... This is market consumers programming ... I prefer reading basic acoustic and making experiment ... I did well being in heaven with a minimal level of acoustic satisfaction at low cost ...

I come here for friends and serious discussion not to buy products or discussing upgrades ...It is why i spoke too much ... 😊

You are more self controlled ...

And i love your posts by the way ....

my best to you...

 

 

(c) people believe they have the "right" to opine on an inordinately complicated field (psychoacoustics)

 

 
 

 

 

I beg to differ about simple basic fact in psycho-acoustic which are easy to find reading and easy to experiment with ...

You make a good point. I guess what I wanted to say is that many audiophiles offer opinions which would only be justified without any basic psychoacoustics. You're right that some basics are not that hard to pick up, and experiment with, but many people don't even do that and many more venture out beyond the simple understandings and claim things which really requires deeper knowledge.

You are right hilde45...

But it is easier for most people to argue at the infinite about cables differences or tube versus digital  ... The only demand here is to PURCHASE something ...

I was totally frustrated myself with any piece of gear BEFORE i enter in simple basic reading about acoustic and then i begin to experiment ...

it is the reason why i am happy with a low cost modified speakers...

I cannot recommend them as a solution as most does with their magical component because i disliked them before learning how to optimize them ...This is basic acoustic , basic electrical noise ratio signal optimization and vibration resonance control ...

it is the reason why even if i like my components i never recommend them as a solution; i recommend studying acoustics ...

People are lazy ... Or dont have the time to do it...I am retired ...

My very best to you ...

 

You make a good point. I guess what I wanted to say is that many audiophiles offer opinions which would only be justified without any basic psychoacoustics. You’re right that some basics are not that hard to pick up, and experiment with, but many people don’t even do that and many more venture out beyond the simple understandings and claim things which really requires deeper knowledge.

 

 
 

 

 

@mahgister i Agree with you. I like to continue to learn in this hobby of ours.  I also try to remain pleasant when discussing audio.  But I’m aware that I’m surrounded by folks that have been in the hobby 20,30, 40, 50 years. I try to talk to them understanding that.  You can’t be dismissive and disrespectful to folks in certain ways. Some of our guys act like they are OZ!

Absolutely! If people did the three things you mention...

  • Basic acoustics -- reflections and frequency curves
  • Basic electrical noise to signal ration optimization
  • Vibration resonance control

...there would be far more satisfaction in the hobby.