Are You a Swifty?

@tylermunns Buddy, you can semantically parse your words all you want but, yes, you are enforcing a completely arbitrary and arrogant gateway for what can be considered legitimate art. I'm sorry, that's your opinion and I guess you're entitled to it but, again, you come across as holier-than-thou.

Rest assured I don't take anything you say personally (I mean, why would I? Though judging by the sheer amount of your own word salad you're tossing, you seem to invest a lot of emotion in this forum). But, yes, your earlier comment about 

"It seems odd to me that you would describe as "boring" the hypothetical person who eschews superficial and shallow things (presumably in favor of exciting/interesting/smart things)" 

reinforces my point about snobbery. Your "exciting/interesting/smart" (whatever the hell that last descriptor means) things are to millions boring, meaningless, and uninspiring. 

And your earlier comment:

"Whether there is any merit to exposing oneself to a significant swath of Top 40 music in 2024" 

has been adapted by many and applied to just about any year of pop music over the past half century or more. As if Top 40 music of 1994 or 1984 or 2004 had more or less merit. 

@simao Allow me to once again issue semantic gymnastics and snobbishly parse out words:
“…enforcing a completely arbitrary and arrogant gateway for what can be considered legitimate art…”
Come again?  
“gateway?” “enforcing” said gateway? 
What is this crap?  
Ay yi yi…
Who said anything about “legitimate art?” Not me.  That was you.  

I said I think the vast majority of the most popular music today is utter trash (that includes Swift, though I wouldn’t put her in the upper tier of the most egregious offenders). It appears my opinion has struck a nerve, as though you’ve somehow taken this as some personal affront.  
It’s just a personal opinion. You’re free to disagree.  

I wish I could be so flattered to think I had the power to be a “cultural gate-keeper” and “enforce a gateway” to the whole of the music-listening population, but I don’t.  
You’re giving me waaaaaaaaay too much power, bud.  
Again, it’s just 1 out of 8,000,000,000 opinions.  
I’m not sitting here as though I’m some God-like bouncer at some Studio 54-esque gate, checking everyone’s music collection and saying, “nope, sorry, you can’t come in…too lame…you can’t enter the world of music fandom.”  
Just. A. Guy.

You referenced this sentence of mine, “ - Whether there is any merit to exposing oneself to a significant swath of Top 40 music in 2024.”  
Not sure if you just totally missed the point or if you were taking my words out of context or some combination of both. 
That was something I wrote in a previous post here, a bullet-point-thing merely illustrating the various topics I’d addressed here (there was a knucklehead who chose to join the forum and just start firing away Yosemite Sam-style with the political trolling, and he foolishly tried to insinuate my contributions to the thread were of the same nature, so I just listed the various topics I’d addressed, all of which were relevant to this thread on Taylor Swift, none of the topics remotely close political candidates or Bible sales)
It was a question, not a statement either way.   
I’m not really sure what your last sentence is getting at
 

@tylermunns Nothing of what you've blathered about has struck a nerve save for the unctuous manner in which you blather. At least millercarbon had a sense of humor.

And yes, I did say "legitimate art" as that's the conclusion one can reach about your opinions on the manner. 

Anyway, best of luck with things. 

@simao No, talk of "legitimate art" is not the conclusion one who actually read my words and understands words would reach.  

Best of luck with that whole "words" thing and that whole "intellectual honesty" thing.  

You're off to a good start with, "unctuous." That's a goodin'!

I cannot have an opinion because i never listen to her "consciously"...

I had not listened consciously to no popular music after Bob Dylan Leonard Cohen old men and singers (Billie Holiday Joan Baez) of a past era now...

I am old i guess...

But i really think that this tylermunns claims as a musician himself must contain some truth because of my virtual visceral indifference to almost all popular music nowadays from North america since decades:

I said I think the vast majority of the most popular music today is utter trash

Now saying that ask for courage or taste for provocation...

Anyway there is so much tremendous music in the past and on earth that listening actual popular music of North america dont enter my mind not my ears too very often ... There is for sure exception as perhaps Taylor Swift is one but i did not even know her nor ever heard her ... I had no opinion about her in particular... I dont like Celine Dion and it is a good singer and like me she is from my country but i never could really like what she does at all even if i recognised his talent for sure... but what about Lady Gaga and othgers popular singers ? i cannot stand any of them for more than three minutes...😁

I must be "snob" ...😁

I like popular music of Abida Parveen especially ( the bigger voice) and Naseebo Lal though if i want to be provocative ... it is popular music by the way ...😊 and poetical and musical for me ...

I Like poetry ....And music ...

Try it

Speaking of popular music , i own more than 100 albums of Fado ... it sound good to me ... 😊