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BEWARE OF FRAUD with this member

FRAUD ALERT!
I recently sold a Mytek Liberty DAC to this user.

Buyer: locmao003
503-583-1266
locmao003@gmail.com

In the Audiogon Selling portal they listed their shipping address as a US Oregon address.
I shipped the item to this address. 
Paypal payment made to my account.
USPS Insured shipment, with delivery confirmation.
Delivery confirmed on June 11, 2021 by USPS.
I got an email, from a DIFFERENT email address stating they received the item.

Next, I got a dispute from Paypal saying the buyer never received the item.
The buyer listed their address as VIETNAM! Not Oregon.
I NEVER sell or ship overseas and would not have accepted this purchase if that was disclosed.
Paypal has approved the claim, and took my $500 payment back. I am left without the original DAC or payment.

BEWARE of this Buyer!
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kavakat1
110 posts
 
 Create a bank Acct for use only for your web sales and purchases.  It will be in same bank as your regular account.  Moneyfrom sale goes into it and you immediately transfer to your regular Acct. PP only has authority to clawback money from your one Acct which is at zero balance.  You have the money, scammer is out of luck.  Complains to PP   But you are in charge now. You decide whether to reimburse.  If problem. Leave PP, OR OPEN ANOTHER NEW ACCT TO USE W THEM. They can’t get your goat if they don’t know where it’s tied.  
12many
242 posts
 
I have been told to not accept paypal and they don’t help the seller. And, this makes me want to never buy used or through Audiogon. I am shopping for speakers and everyone says buy used, but with risks like this I don’t think it is a good idea. OP, I am sorry for your loss. The world would be so much better if everyone was honest.
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badger_erich
128 posts
 
PayPal is impossible to work with. I only shop through vendors I know and trust. I also only do local pick up on gear that I sell.
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gents
113 posts
 
I think that everything that needs to be said has been said about this.
I just would like to add that I would think nothing of opening a small claim in your local jurisdiction against PayPal. First off, just for the ballbreaking of it all. Even if they dismiss it, PayPal has to pay $1,500 to get somebody to stand in there that day. Second, when you provide everything you've said in the original post, that comes across real well on an arbitrator or a judge. You will win your 500 bucks back and unfortunately you'll have to work for it, but I don't like getting schtooped on an order that got stolen in Southeast Asia by an organization (PayPal) that's handling business and making decisions from Southeast Asia. Even if I lose money I like to see them lose.
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gents
113 posts
 
PS, PayPal does this to buyers as well. Had a Krell preamp, purchased here on A'gon, just not arrive at my doorstep while I was in the house. Despite the fact that the seller insured it and sent it 'signature only', UPS said they left it on the doorstep (again I was home and waiting for it) and despite getting police reports and neighbors video of my door that the police went over, PayPal still closed the case on me and I was out the preamp and the money. 
Luckily, a little while later my PayPal MasterCard was kind enough to find in my favor and I was no longer out the money. 
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