Bookshelf Speakers that have to be up against the wall


My very first posting, so be gentle. Looking to upgrade my bookshelf speakers, say to a max of 3k or so. I have an old mcintosh amp and pre. plenty of power. I now have to put my speakers against the wall and the ported ones I have now don’t ‘bloom’ now, they sound a bit muffled - they lost most of their imaging. I think because they are ported in the back also aside from being against the wall. I’d like to hear from anyone who has had that problem and recommendations from those with knowledge of solving this issue.
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if you have  Totem Rainmakers, plug the rear ports with peace of foam  and add  sub-woofer(  if you have a space for it). and adjust bass for the best sound possible  . i have energy c2 (front ported) in the book shelf in horizontal position in 3.1 (or 2.1 with center channel disconnected  ) configuration and sound quite nice

But the OP specifically said "they lost most of their imaging." Well, of course they did! Anything else would defy the laws of physics. No amount of speaker design, no "voice" can change the fact the sound coming off the speaker hitting a flat surface so near by is gonna ruin the imaging. Cabinet, bookshelf, wall, does not matter.. All the same as far as the soundwave goes.

Really good imaging requires speakers being placed about 3 feet away because reflected sounds arriving within about a 3 to 5 millisecond window affect our ability to localize, and sound travels about one foot per millisecond. So anything you can do to eliminate or attenuate reflections within the first few feet of the speaker will have an inordinate effect on imaging.

Sorry my friend @millercarbon but this is not true.  I used to believe the same as you about speaker placement and imaging, but it really depends on how the speaker is designed.  And Sjofn “the clue” uses the wall boundaries as well as floor and ceiling to work with its design rather than against it, and it works.  I didn’t believe it either until I heard it, but there was a wonderful and deep 3D soundstage accompanied by a clean level of deep bass I’ve never heard from speakers this size (or price) before.  I imagine the Von Schweikert Vortex speakers also manage to overcome these “barriers” in their own way although I’ve never heard them.  

While you are correct that with traditional speaker designs getting speakers away from walls is crucial to really open up a 3D stage, but as with most things in audio there’s more than one way to skin a cat. 


Is there any room at all behind them?  I had a lovely pair of bookshelf B&Ws that started me down the audiophile path.  Powered by a McIntosh 252.  It was a great set up.  Sill own the 252 that powers a pair of B&W 804 D2's.  Sounds lovely in my office.
First I want to say thank you to all of you. I am going to try the cheap route first and plug them, I do have a sub, but it’s an older velodyne model right now.  I can move them a few inches from the wall and will see how that goes. I will then go the route of checking out a few of the speakers mentioned. Luckily I live near several high end Best to you all.