coincident total eclipse/v.schweikert gen3 hse



I am about to choose one of those speakers

coincident total eclipse 2
von schweikert vr4 gen 3 hse

which is better regardless of the other components. I will shape my system around the speaker after I make a choice.

Any experience or comment is highly appreciated.
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I've not heard the eclipse, but I have configured my entire system around VR-4 Gen III HSE's. The VR-4's continue to amaze with every upgrade. I can't see myself changing speakers anywhere in the near, or long term for that matter. I will say that, imo, they need some breathing room. Please see my system and feel free to ask questions.
tvad, i will shape the other components according to my speaker choice. So it is not a limiting factor on my choice.
Thanks,
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Dear Friends,

My final vote went to Total Eclipse 2.
Altough I was formerly in love with VR4 Gen3, after meeting te 2 and a 3 day a/b comparison of the two speakers, for me the te 2 was the clear winner in terms of every audiophile parameter (maybe except the overall musicality criteria which is really very subjective...)

After changing at least 10 speakers in the 5000-15000 $ region (wilson , proac model, von schweikert model , zu model, sonus faber, revel, jm lab utopia etc) I believe it is one of the best all around speakers and great value.

Thanks for all the comments.