DH Labs - Shunyata Cable Comparison


My system for Background:

Harbeth C7ES=XD Speakers

Accuphase P4600 Power Amp

Aurender N20 Streamer

MSB Discrete DAC

This is a new system purchased over the last 6 months. While the system settled in I purchased Blue Jeans cables: Ethernet, Digital XLR, Analog XLR Interconnects, Digital Coax for the Clock connection between the Streamer and DAC and Speaker cables.

Later I upgraded the Ethernet cable with the DH Labs Reunion and the DH Labs Digital XLR. Both these cables provide a noticeable upgrade that I really liked so I put DH on my further upgrade list.I was also interested in the new Gamma line from Shunyata.

The most convenient way to audition cables at home for me is to use The Cable Company's Lending Library. You have 10 days to 2 weeks to evaluate whatever you want to hear. So I borrowed:

DH Labs Air Matrix XLR Interconnects

Shunyata Gamma XLR Interconnects

AND

DH Labs Q10 Signature Speaker Cables

Shunyata Gamma Speaker Cables

I really liked the DH Labs Air Matrix Cryo. It offered a very open, airy and clear presentation somewhat laid back and with a nice a soundstage depth. It was also excellent with voices. The Gammas were also very nice but I found them less open and airy like someone put a lid on the sound.

Leaving the Air Matrix in the system I replaced the Blue Jeans Speaker Cables with the DH Labs Q10s. My quick initial response was that I lost some of the air and the soundstage was not as big so I quickly replaced them with the Gammas which were even less airy and the soundstage did not have the same depth. At this point I was disappointed that neither apparently offered an upgrade to the Blue Jeans.

Thinking about this overnight I felt I really made snap decisions about both cables and I should give each a more extended and varied listen. So the next day I started again with the Q10s. I listened this time for many hours and with a variety of tracks. The sound started to grow on me. I realized that the apparent loss of air was just the Q10s delivering a cleaner high end. Once I became accustomed to this sound I preferred it to the Blue Jeans.

The next day I replaced the Q10s with the Gammas. Again after extended and varied listening I started to notice the strengths of the Gammas: A very refined high end and a deep and impactful bass.I actually started to prefer their sound characteristics over the Q10s even though they were not as open and the soundstage depth was not as deep.

The next day while continuing to listen to the Gammas I realized I missed the extended airy high end and deeper soundstage of the Q10s. Their highs were not as refined but the overall presentation was much more lively and large while the Gammas were refined, controlled and impactful but less lively. As a test I replaced the DH Labs Air Matrix XLRs with the Gammas. The combination of all Gamma was too dark.

I then put the Q10s back in the system and immediately reveled in their larger open and airy soundstage.I then decided to try the Gamma XLRs with he Q10 cables. That was a decent combination that was better than all Gamma or Air Matrix and Gamma but still not as open and lively as the all DH Labs combo.

So my plan is to purchase both DH Labs cables.

I've also learned that I should not quickly dismiss a component. Sometimes the initial difference or characteristic is not a true measure of its overall performance. I really need to listen for several hours and use a wide variety of music to clearly get an understanding of the sound signature of these cables. When I did that the sound of each started to grow on me. My snap judgments caused me confusion and unnecessary retesting.

BTW my Accuphase Amp has a Speaker A/B Selection switch. It has two sets of speaker terminals so I was able to have the Gamma with Banana plugs connected to one set of terminals and the speakers and the Q10s with Spades connected to the other terminals and speakers. This allowed for more convenient switching making the comparison somewhat easier but it was still an adventure.

Next I plan to borrow the DH Labs Coax Interconnects for the Clock and their higher end Digital XLRs. I'll probably try a few of their better power cables at different price points. In my experience DH Labs products really punch above their weight and offer really good value. And I also highly recommend The Cable Company if you want to audition a variety of cables or power conditioners at home.

 

 

 

 

jfrmusic

The OP pretty much proved that cables make no difference. It's what you get used to.

But go ahead and flame me. After 50+ years and 10,000 + gigs, I'm sure most of you know more about what things actually sound like than me.

 

By the way, my albums are really well recorded.

@secretguy

As the OP I must say you have a very distorted reading of my post. To come to the conclusion you stated is hilarious. You just twisted my experience to fit your own position. BTW albums are well recorded because studios and recording engineers pay attention to the quality of the cables. They’re not using lamp cord from Home depot.

No, not lamp cord but they ARE typically using Belden, Canare, Or Mogami, all practically free compared to esoteric cables. 
 

I’ve tried and own cables from $150 to $3500, . Many. And I listen to a lot of extremely well recorded minimally processed jazz. If there are differences between them they are extremely subtle and I can’t reliably notice. And I’ve tired. My hearing is good and so is my system.

I’m not saying you’re dumb. But I’m entitled to communicate my experiences, and they differ from yours. And that’s fine. I kept my last pair of $3k speaker cables just for fun. They’re cool, well made, a nice piece of audio jewelry for my system. I just don’t hear any major differences between them and the $150 pair by WBC. 

But go ahead and flame me. After 50+ years and 10,000 + gigs, I'm sure most of you know more about what things actually sound like than me.

 

By the way, my albums are really well recorded.

And I am sure you know more about what things actually sound like than the likes of Rick Rubin, James Guthrie, Greg Wells, Clayton Wood, Andy Jackson at David Gilmour's Astoria studio, and Vlado Meller, all who use Shunyata products. 

How many Grammy's do you have from your well recorded albums again? 

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