Differences between Accuphase C-2820 and C-3800?

Hi Bvdiman,

Yeah, thanks. The FM has not really been upgraded that much as far as I can tell. It's more of an evolutionary rather than revolutionary changes. I could be wrong, however, since I don't work over there to see what redesigning they did.

Anyway, the prices are ridiculous really. For a 711 MK. II, a 255 MK II preamp, 222 MK. III phono stage, and cables, you're looking at well over $150,000 USD.

The resale value on FM is rather good, but will you get at least $100,000 on the above units remains to be seen.

Dave,
When I bought my 268, CHF rate was about .90c to the dollar, so @CHF110k paid
$100k. They have since increased the rrp a little and with current exchange, a friend
paid $128-130k for his just a couple of months ago.

Unlike most other brands, FMA strictly adhere to their fixed pricing policy. Which is
fair to all and a good thing for their residual value IMO. Was actually offered 100k for
mine recently by a another friend. Not bad at all considering it used for 4yrs.. (of
course it's in as new cond.) ;)

My 611 which I bought new in '93 @36k, sold them last year and still got close to 20k
for it. Again, not bad for a 20yrs old un-reconditioned amp! So there you go speaking
of their value..

*Sorry if a little off topic.

Hi Bvdiman, I have just seen on your system page that you have bough a pair
of A-100 mono blocks and also the DP-900/DC-901 SACD player.
Congratulations! (In my first post to you here, I was not aware of this and I
was actually wondering why are you interested in Accuphase - I knew that you
are a FM Acoustics owner. I will follow your system page with interest for a
Accuphase vs. FM Acustics comparison.)

Dave, it seems to me that compare to the FM Acoustics prices, the Accuphase
prices
(at least of the components in which the two of us are interested) are peanuts
money. :)

Classact, I find it interesting that you have preferred the A-46 amp over the
P-6100 amp. My impression was that the P-6100 is better than my A-45
amp, while, on the other hand, I have found the A-45 and the A-45
comparable. Beside more "features", the A-46 also has more "drive", i.e. more
power, than the A-45 (but more power is something that I simply do not need
with my current speakers.)

Full Accuphase system driving the late F.Serblin's last masterpiece Ktema :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQ7MzjOotE

Hi Bvdiman,

Imo, $100k USD is silly money to pay for a preamp. I appreciate the fixed price policy and the resale value. I got $20k for the 611 too back in '05, unreconditioned as well.

Anyway, Accuphase is silly money here in the US. I appreciate the build quality and technology (Accuphase just might be the most high tech brand)but this distributor here is a bit off his rocker, so to speak. But, if he's selling at these inflated prices, then there's no chance they will be lowered anytime soon!

So, for me, Pass Labs is the ticket at this time. It's not really cheap per se, but when you're dealing in pure Class A for both amps and preamps, it's never cheap. Nelson Pass is a competent and humble designer. The people that run the company are pretty nice guys too. No, it's not the best, but it's affordable to me, and it sounds and is built damn good.