Dirty little secret of Pedigreed, decades old Speaker line - no one will address


For decades ever since it was first launched, all high end competitors have made major revisions to their midrange drivers. Yet YG Acoustics has done so - zero times. It still has the dubious, aluminum cone tech they first introduced.on day one. Their rationale for their supposedly superior construction has been completely rejected by all other companies who have neverconsidered considering imitating it.  They almost seem to be aspiring to copy Paradigm's entry level models (a co. that has ditched them for Beryillium on anything more premium). All while improving the frequency extremes only.  It certainly looks like they're endlessly, dead set on proclaiming it's somehow a feature & not a bug & eternally racing down this dead end. Their U.S. distributor has hired their sales director away to sell a competing brand they ALSO distribute, Vivid - that does have a far more sophisticated midrange driver & does it eve outsell YG.  In one of the distributor's online videos sent out free in their newsletter, the former YG sales guru, proclaims he has never felt nearly so engaged with the music - a clear knock to his old co. YG.  The owner, of said distributor standing right beside him, agreeing & not saying a word to disagree.  YG's response is to update the frequency extremes only, yet again & move down market to create a less expensive line. Even B&W replaced & updated their midrange driver tech, with their continuum. One of the strangest, most determined, longest running, self sabotaging mrkting decisions I've seen in high end audio. There must be the most peculiar, Why animating this but I can't imagine what it would be that remotely serves them.  Can you?

john1

While we are at it, let’s discuss how little has been done in quite a while to innovate and improve violins, acoustic guitars, and the hockey puck.  Surely, new and better materials are available—beryllium has to be better than maple.

How do you know any one approach is inherently superior and that approach is the latest invention?  It is simplistic to assume one aspect, like the material chosen for a midrange, is superior in all aspects of performance and that a driver employing that design choice would be best in all systems.  
 

This also assumes that there is a consensus on what sounds good.  It is clear we don’t all agree which is why there are many choices out there.  For what I like, I have not found one aspect of design that always sounds superior.  It is not simply a matter of picking the latest technology, or something that measures well, or any other indicia; it comes down to hearing the gear.

Magico, Rockport & many speakers with ceramic drivers show how it should be done.

A lot of AG forum contributors are so bright they feel they can get away with beautifully reasoned but too theoretical opinion, that may sound like it OUGHT to be convincing if left unexamined. I try very hard not to do so & to stick to fact where the evidence is more then clear.

Really? This is funny cause neither Rockport or Magico use ceramic drivers. So much for sticking to facts. I’ll use a phrase an IT buddy used to use when dealing with a clueless client — “We’re working with about 100 megabytes of RAM here.” Two words of advice:

1 - Get some writing lessons.

2 - Get a life.

Peace out.

SOIX that sounds like anger for its own sake. I never said Magico or Rockport used ceramic drivers. Please reread the sentence you quote . "&" means and (in addition to), not intrinsic to.

Even if I needed writing lessons - focusing on the letter & not the spirit of the truths discussed simply dishonors you & all truths unapologetically no longer reached for.  The point here is not humiliation. That’s for those trying to hurt others in compensation for their own unresolved anxieties/neuroses.

Yes, genuine peace to you in finding positive truths for their own sake.

Where is the evidence that any one technology or material choice is superior such that YG is somehow shortchanging its customers by not employing that technology?  The only evidence has been that other brands have made changes more recently than has YG; nothing demonstrates that these changes surpass what YG offers.

I hardly think that reading promotional material and divining the attitude of distributors constitutes evidence of any sort.  You mistake what you find “all there easily obtainable in the public sphere” as verified information.

You mention Vivid, Magico, and others who take a superior approach.  Yet, they all differ in the design and material of their midrange drivers.  Are they to be criticized for not converging on the optimal design?  If you notice certain characteristics of design that correspond with the sound of particular speakers, that will at least be something to discuss, but, you have completely left out discussion of the sound.  To listeners like me, that is the only thing that ultimately matters.

The most important question for you @john1 is "why do you care so much"? The market will decide if YG is right or wrong and they will go quietly into that silent night.

Or not....

Your stance is very much like the threads bemoaning how expensive this or that thing is and why are people so foolish to waste their money. People do it because they can and it's their money.

Strangely, in this entire thread I have not seen any indication that you have listened to a YG speaker and found it lacking because of the midrange driver. You cite anecdotal evidence, but no real first hand experience.