Dissapointed with my new speakers

I think the Denon should be adequate for use with most of the Totem models except maybe the Hawks and the Mani II.

All Totems I have listened to have terrific imaging relative to other speakers of similar size and cost.

I think what large floor standers can provide has more to do with the "weight" and "Scale" of the presentation than imaging. Difficult for me to enjoy large orchestras or Rock at near concert volumes on anything other than several hundred watts of amplification pushing large or multiple bass drivers - which usually means a system with a great subwoofer or larger floor standing speakers.

For most other kinds of music, particularly in smaller rooms, quality monitors that are well placed on stands with good amplification can be very enjoyable. In fact, because of their usually smaller face area and the closer physical proximity of their smaller drivers, monitors typically "disappear" in the sound field better than floor standers.

One exception is the Totem Arro which is a super slim floorstander that images more like a great monitor.

In larger rooms, bass and overall "scale" and "weight" of the presentation can be lacking in monitor-based systems without the addition of a well integrated sub.

Mb9061,

If you are talking about the MA Gold series - they have a reputation for being overly bright - while the Silver and Bronze series (less expensive!) sound pretty darn good.

If you have the ability to drive and place these speakers in your listening room;what about magnepan speakers;any interest in trying a planar? I believe they offer a 30 day in home trial on their entry level pair and there are several used for sale now that fall within your pricing.

A little long but a "fast read" - I have mains that play flat to 50 Hz, and drop off from 40 to 20 Hz. Although they sound good full range, something was wrong.

I fully read through my processors and subwoofers set-up recommendations. Then, I sat down with a test CD and analog sound level meter in my listening position. Using graph paper, I graphed out my Mains frequency responses in dB's. I used 75 dB as a reference level for my Mains and looked for the obvious spot that the bass rolls off.

At the frequency roll off point, or very near to it, I identified the best place to cross over my subwoofer. When tested at 40, 50 and 60 Hz, 50 was almost the perfect crossover ticket.

How about automatically crossing over at the THX recommended 80? I tried it. They sound much better playing as low as they can play with a flat response. The lower the crossover point, generally the better from my research.

My fronts have 15 inch woofers. After I crossed over a SVS Ultra 13 at 50 Hz, I adjusted the "Q" - to flatten out the subwoofer peak at 80 Hz in that exact room position.

This final "Q" adjustment resulted in shocking clarity, balance and involvement improvements throughout the volume range. This simple set-up helped identify the exact spot to engage your mains with a musical subwoofer, and allow the mains to play their best notes with consistant balance and clarity.

If I left my fronts alone, they'd sound good, but the music below 50 Hz would be begging for volume adjustments and mess up the overall system balance when turned up. Like yours, the mids and highs would be too dominant.

Once everything is set-up, I rechecked it with the sub crossed over and turned on. I saw a very flat dB response all across the Hz range right at my listening position.

My processor allows me to turn off the sub and send full range to all speakers except when in analog Multi-Channel. It definately sounds better with the sub properly set-up and tuned with the fronts and my listening room.

It's sorta like tuning a musical instrument and easy once you get the hang of a SLM, test CD, graph paper, your processors crossover controls, and any further fine tuning allowable for the subwoofer. I follow speaker placement guidelines for my listening room as closely as possible.

A SVS Ultra 13 is very musical. Mine sounds best positioned up at ear level on a strong table, just behind the listening position about 8 feet back, slightly closer than my mains. It sounds much better than between the mains in a nearby corner where it sounded too muddy and too slow, even after adjusting the variable Phase dial. I can hear exactly where I have the sub located even perfectly tuned. Others have to look for it.

I'd consider playing your fronts full range with some good bass tracks while you're away if they require more burn-in time. Special CD's are available. I think Reference Recordings has a very good one.

Adjusting down the Ultra's "Q" peak of 80 Hz really synergized the over all sound. I'd consider a "Q" adjustment if you're shopping for a "musical" subwoofer. The final "Q" adjustment made in the Ultra produced a major musical improvement in the entire listening room at all volumes.

Probably most important - Any nagging desires I ALWAYS USE TO HAVE to make further adjustments have completely vanished. I quit listening for any reproduction errors. I never had a system so satisfying. Now, I just enjoy all the sounds and search for exceptionally well recorded and very musical performances.

Good luck and keep reading!

Thanks guys, I've done some additional listening and found that another contributing problem is my source. Though adequate for the Klipsch's, the Sony SCD-CE595 isn't refined enough for the B&Ws. A lot of the brightness and glare is from the Sony. I think I'm going to purchase either a Denon universal or an old Theta DAC and maybe add a subwoofer around $350.