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Do I need a power conditioner?

I’m in the process of dropping a dedicated 20 amp circuit or 2 into the music room.
So if I have a dedicated circuit for the amp, and a dedicated circuit for everything else,
is a conditioner useful?
I have several fairly decent systems going that I tweek and retweek.
Just got around to upgrading cables. Avoided conditioners because, in general, they dampen the presentation.
Was using a PS Audio PPP for low power components. But fell for the Shunyata spiel.
Plugged in a Hydra 4 with a Python Helix and was very happy with how it cleaned up the Zu Druids.
Seems high sensitivity speakers maybe reveal the grunge also.
Moved it to my system with the Martin Logans and the presentation seemed a bit lean and just a bit lifeless, using just copperhead cable to Hydra. (using all Pangea to get from the Hydra to other components.)
Then I put a Black Mamba from Classe amp straight to the wall and Wow! Single most significant tweek ever for me.
So I’m thinking, maybe I don’t need the Denali I ordered if I just use a couple dedicated circuits and some Shunyata power cords everywhere.
Opinions?
Thanks. :)
leotis
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lak
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@leotis,
The first time I heard my Equi=Tech 2Q in my system (years ago, 2001)
I described the music as sounding like it was on steriods, in a good way!

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I was pretty confident Leotis that the innate qualities of balanced AC power would be apparent once you actually did some listening. . As you note, decreased noise and absolutely no loss of the music (in fact there’s more musical nuance and information).Balanced AC power is a permanent fixture in my system.

Charles

leotis OP
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It is not just the noise I think.
It's the phase integrity also.
Filters cause phase shift between voltage and current right?
So improved power factor.
Wish I knew more about it.

pennsy
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I use a ps audio p5! My main amp I plug into wall with a Wireworld platinum power cord! Use Wireworld silver coating cables for rest! There's a difference between conditioner and power regenerator! P5 is a regenerator! My opinion on cables and conditioners or regenerator! The money u spend for this is not reflected enough for the cash outlay! When u invest over six figures in a system like I have , feel free to call me ignorant!
leotis OP
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I had a PS Audio PPP. It helped, but the improvement was relatively subtle, especially compared to the Equitech.
The Equitech is orders of magnitude more effective IMO.
Most of the noise in your AC power is not coming from your wall circuit. It is reactive current emanating from the power supplies of all the gear you have connected. The regenerators do nothing about this source of noise.
With balanced power that noise cancels itself out; a really elegant solution.
And the SQ difference is not subtle at all, more like freaking amazing. Proper respect to Martin Glasband for figuring it out! Now virtually all the important audio video production companies use his technology. Which may be why it is hard to get one of his consumer units, they are so busy producing their larger installations.
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