soix. I do need an equalizer. I tip the treble and bass up on most music. And even sometimes from song to song. In my cars I've had alpine head units and subwoofers, and am always adjusting the bass a bit for each song. Not that I'm a bass head, but I at least like to feel it a little bit, even on songs where bass isn't prominent. While it may not be accurate, I much prefer it. When I dropped off my 836's for repair, I demoed a Hegel with Paradigm founders 120 and medium end Kefs, and I was perplexed as to how this sounded good. There was no air in the voices and it just didn't sound clear. You could be right about maybe just doing a stand alone preamp. But there could be times when I do want surround. Plus it would leave my 5 channel amp with 3 being unused.
Do my ears deceive me??
The money is in the bank, thinking of upgrading speakers, but everything I demo is no better or worse than what I have. Willing to spend up to $6,000. Upgraditis?? My main system is Mcintosh MX 134 that I bought in 2003, with a pair of Focal 836v's and a Parasound 5250 (250w/channel) amp I bought around 2012. I either blew the tweeters or crossover on my 836's, so they are in for repair. Since I've owned them for 10 years, I was considering new speakers. The blades are way more than I would spend, but I also demoed the Kef R11s, Martin Logan xtf 200's, Mcintosh XR 100s, and B&W 703 S3.
None of them sounded better than what I'm hearing right now from my BP 2006s. Would I really need to demo them in my room to make a fair comparison?? Or are speakers just not much better than they were 20 years ago? I know I love detail, and tend to lean towards aluminum tweeters. I pretty much only listen to classic rock and roll. Of all I demoed, I really like the B&W 706s. They sounded much brighter/cleaner than the others. But they had the reciever set up so I couldn't adjust the treble/bass. I love a V equalizer curve, and bump up the bass and treble a bit on my home/car systems. Maybe I just have the good luck of prefering cheaper speakers.
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@mofojo ”In what way have speakers had a tremendous advancement in the last 20 years,… Your Sonus Fabers are all paper driver… nothing new.?” In sound quality performance. Saying Sonus Faber speakers use paper cones is a gross abstraction. It is like saying how a 286 PC chip no different than a contemporary PC chip… they are both on silicon substrate. The amount of technology is in the design and execution.
If you listen to a 20 year old set of say $20K speakers versus a contemporary set of same priced (in dollars corrected to 2003 dollars) the difference in sound quality is simply striking… tighter bass, better imaging, better more real sounding treble. In all components. For example, I remember replacing my 15 year old Threshold amp with a contemporary Pass amp… my jaw just dropped, very similar specifications, similar weight, form factor, but the sound quality nearly brought tears to my eyes. This is the way to evaluate advancement in high end audio… listen to it. If you listen to it and you are not blown away, that is great… keep what you have. But, when you listen to what is now possible versus 20 years ago and want better more realistic sound, the case for new stuff that caters to your values in sound is overwhelmingly compelling. |
@fenderu2 for what it's worth I design my systems around my speakers and believe in that philosophy. I use Duntech and Dunlavy which are by no means modern but I believe have no equal. I've got to think there are many fantastic speakers available for your budget. Speakers that are phase and time coherent would be my choice. Vanderstein, Snell, Theil , Dunlavy and Duntech have these attributes. There may be others I'm sure, but in my opinion these are key attributes. Ditch the mx multichannel amp and and go for a true 2 channel. Pass labs, PS Audio... the rabbit hole is deep my friend. Peace and work hard to educate yourself and research for the best result. |
I owned Def Tech BP2006's and went from there to the Mythos ST-L Super Tower. The STLs blew away the 2006's, but while the ST-L's had very good highs and lows, they lacked good mid-range. I moved to Harbeth and REL. Leaps and bounds better for what I listen too. My point is, if what you are listening to isn't any better than the 2006's, you are auditioning the wrong speakers. If classic rock is your thing, I'd be looking at something with a big driver like Tannoy.
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