Sorry talk2me, the stealth cables ARE a ripoff as far as I'm concerned. I listened to 3 beta pair in my system many years back loaned to me by an audio friend for my thoughts, 5k a pair at the time. Plenty of detail but devoid of any musicality, amusical at the extreme. I was astounded that they cost and sounded the way they did. Each pair I added compounded my impressions. I seldom have had such a negative visceral reaction to an audio component except in this case, well warranted particularly at the price point this stuff was selling for. But then again maybe not a synergistic match with my system or so I thought, no, same impression in a friends system. I never got why people liked these cables or the buzz surrounding them at the time and then the justification for their price. The poster child for snake oil. My only reason for posting this most negative impression is the price charged for Stealth cables.