Do we really need anything greater than 24/96? Opinions?


It's really difficult to compare resolutions with different masterings, delivery methods, sources, etc. I have hundreds of HI-rez files (dsd, hi bit rate PCM, etc). I have to say that even 24/44 is probably revealing the best a recording has to offer. Obviously, recording formats, methods, etc all play a huge role. I'm not talking preferred sources like vinyl, sacd, etc. I'm talking about the recordings themselves. 

Plus, I really think the recording (studio-mastering) means more to sound quality than the actual output format/resolution. I've heard excellent recorded/mastered recordings sound killer on iTunes streaming and CD. 

Opinions?

aberyclark
You would have to understand what DR metric is and how it is calculated.
But first RMS is for you to study. Homework, before you go back to the future, GFF. You have to earn your ticket. BTW nobody is laughing at your jokes, they still suck.
This is completely irrelevant to the discussion.  Why post a database of human intervention in mastering when the discussion is about the abilities of a data format independent of whatever decisions a human made during mastering? 
geoffkait18,603 posts11-29-2019 2:13pmHydrogen Audio? Don’t make me laugh! Ooops, too late! 😁 😁 😁

For those in my past who haven’t done so, I urge you to visit the unofficial dynamic range database and get eddicated.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Ten+years+after&album=

GFF is AI from the future, it has never been denied. Only AI could post 7.5 times a day for 7 years. The algorithms are still poor though. Hence the Turing test with the 18500 posts is definitely a fail. The jokes especially.
atdavid
This is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Why post a database of human intervention in mastering when the discussion is about the abilities of a data format independent of whatever decisions a human made during mastering?

>>>>Folks, that’s the kind of faulty logic that comes from reading technical books too much and not spending enough time in reality. The discussion of dynamic range and the dynamic range database has *everything* to do with the discussion of data rate, sampling rate and format. What the dynamic range database shows - if you analyze it - is you’re screwed no matter which digital format you buy into. He-loo! Unless you don’t care about dynamics. In which case you’re in the wrong hobby, gentle readers. Music is all about dynamics. Without dynamics you have elevator music.

Here is Abbey Road on the Dynamic Range Database to analyze 👀

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Beatles&album=Abbey+Road
Folks, this is not faulty logic. It is no logic at all.

From: https://www.maat.digital/dro2/ . This has absolutely nothing to do with whether 16//44.1 is enough or 24/96 is enough. It is like saying "blue" when I ask you what time it is.

However, since you want to selectively use this database to move forward an irrelevant argument, I can play along too. If you look at the peak dynamic range, which is the best indicator of the technical ability of the format, as opposed to the average dynamic range, which is more indicative of mastering choices, then virtually all the top peak dynamic range albums are download, or CD (or unknown).

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/dr-max/desc


What is DR?

The DR algorithm, related to PLR (Peak–to–Loudness Ratio) or “crest factor,” specifically measures the dynamic density or lack of dynamics caused by overly aggressive dynamic compression and limiting. Although the companion DRMeter MkII provides a manual measurement of the "official" integrated DR or DRi, only DROffline and DROffline MkII can generate official values automatically and in the background.


geoffkait18,604 posts11-29-2019 3:27pm

>>>>Folks, that’s the kind of faulty logic that comes from reading technical books too much and not spending enough time in reality. The discussion of dynamic range and the dynamic range database has *everything* to do with the discussion of data rate, sampling rate and format. What the dynamic range database shows - if you analyze it - is you’re screwed no matter which digital format you buy into. He-loo! Unless you don’t care about dynamics. In which case you’re in the wrong hobby, gentle readers. 🧑🏻‍🚀