Do we really need anything greater than 24/96? Opinions?


It's really difficult to compare resolutions with different masterings, delivery methods, sources, etc. I have hundreds of HI-rez files (dsd, hi bit rate PCM, etc). I have to say that even 24/44 is probably revealing the best a recording has to offer. Obviously, recording formats, methods, etc all play a huge role. I'm not talking preferred sources like vinyl, sacd, etc. I'm talking about the recordings themselves. 

Plus, I really think the recording (studio-mastering) means more to sound quality than the actual output format/resolution. I've heard excellent recorded/mastered recordings sound killer on iTunes streaming and CD. 

Opinions?

aberyclark
@atdavid, "Has anyone ever noticed that it is mainly old people that complain about CDs and digital. Young people don't experience listening fatigue with it. Maybe old brains just get information overload listening to digital?"

This made me think of how little impact we audiophiles have on the actual delivery of music. Almost zero.

It's always been a business always driven by the chase for profits - and very little little else.

My dad listened to music via radio, valve amp driven vinyl and home recordings he made on his portable reel to reel deck.

I listened to music via transistors powering vinyl, cassette, minidisc, CD, radio, MP3 and streaming.

My children have only known music delivered in a digital format, usually via CD, MP3, YouTube and streaming.

The industry is only ever interested in delivering formats to the large consumer dog, and not its tiny audiophile tail. 

So it's understandable that each generation may have little experience of the way the previous one listened to music.

The general consumer driven assumption that products keep getting better is, as many audiophiles know, not always true.
There are even some who believe that for the pure reproduction of the spoken voice, things have hardly progressed since the days of the wax cylinder!

Let's also remember that the anachronistic current vinyl resurgence was primarily influenced by club culture experience, not by any wish for better sound quality. The record industry was not slow in cashing in. 

So far it remains the only format that came back to any significant extent. 

Redbook CD is more or less dead, so naturally enough the industry looks for other means to generate income. If 24/96 is deemed profitable then that's where it will go. 

Whether audiophiles actually need it is more or less irrelevant.




For the OP’s original question about 24/96. The answer I think is an emphatic no. Hell 16/44 keeps getting better as the DACs improve over time to the point that it sounds damn good. Mind you old, poorly mastered or recorded CDs still sound like dog poo but that is not the fault of the medium which has gotten much better over the past 35 years of its development. 
poorly mastered or recorded CDs still sound like dog poo but that is not the fault of the medium which has gotten much better over the past 35 years of its development.
I don't think that the medium CD has done ANY development since it it were defined by Sony and Philips.
A fun fact is that they defined the CD and its specifications. Then the CD manufacturer needed to manufacture a CD that meet the specifications. 
But the same went for the CD drive manufacturers they need to be able to read a CD that meet the specifications..

And someone needs to measure the CD that it meets the requirements/specifications. Otherwise the media and drive manufacturers would be in the dark..

But in the end a CD from early 80-ties will play fine in all CD readers if it meets the specifications. Same same no development but today we have better clocks and electronics. So that CD will sound better today than it did then..
Wow! Did I just read that? Someone is suggesting that audiophiles start copying what teenagers listen to? OMG! Shut the cave door and back to pigmy country! 😱
optimize
I don’t think that the medium CD has done ANY development since it it were defined by Sony and Philips. A fun fact is that they defined the CD and its specifications. Then the CD manufacturer needed to manufacture a CD that meet the specifications. But the same went for the CD drive manufacturers they need to be able to read a CD that meet the specifications.

>>>>Uh, optimize, it’s not the CD that’s the problem, it’s the CD player that’s the problem. Hel-loo! There is an extraordinary amount of information on the CD. You just can’t hear it properly or completely because the CD players are all pieces of junk. Yes, I know what some of you are thinking, but my system sounds fabulous! I’ll spare DACs my wrath since by the time the audio signal gets to the DAC it’s too late! Hel-loo!