Doug Schroeder Method, Double ic


I think this topic deserves its own thread , where use double ic through y adapters , from source to preamp, Can’t connect it from Preamp to Amp...For me the result is huge, I can’t go back to single ic....
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Are you saying the Y cables are going to be the same length as the ICs, at 1'? That would be a rather odd implementation of the Schroeder Method, with the Y cables the same length as the ICs. In almost every implementation I have done/seen, the ICs are much longer than the Y cables. 

Frankly, I'm not sure you will gain great benefit if you end up with two pair of ICs totalling 3'; the Y cables contributing 2', and the ICs themselves at 1' long. I really cannot tell you the outcome of that, as it is fairly the reverse of the intent of the Schroeder Method as implemented. I hope it works, but I would not be surprised if it did not work well. The idea is to maximize the contribution/length of the ICs versus the Y cables. 

OR, are you saying the entire doubled IC cable will be 1' long? Then you would have two Y cables at about 6", and the twin ICs at 6". 


Hello,

The minimum Y is 1’ at Blue Jeans so that means 2’ of Y and in order to minimize capacitance, I ordered 1’ IC’s. So the total length of my cable is 3’.  But the split happens at the Neutrik connector so while it is physically part of the Y assembly, it is just 2 cables coming from that connector, if that makes sense.

So you are saying this is not a good configuration. If not, I can still cancel my order.

Thank you for responding.


Full public disclosure more than a year ago means no patent potential though it could be tough to create a defensible patent for parallel wires.
I am relying upon the opinion of the IP Attorney i am partnering with for the patent.  :)

Adurerca, 
I have not seen anyone in the audio industry or community warn of capacitance issues at even 1m lengths,  even with a pair of Schroeder Method sets in a system. I have used two pair of 2m Schroeder Method ICs in systems on a regular basis, both XLR and RCA.

Imo, longer ICs and shorter Y cables would be better.  But, only direct comparison would tell. If Blue Jeans won't make shorter Y cables, get 2 foot ICs from Blue Jeans, and y cables from Audio Sensibility - unless you must have L/R leads so long.

Disclaimer: I have reviewed Audio Sensibility Y Cables for Dagogo.com 
Well then I hope you IP attorney is providing you good advice and/or you are being completely un front with him/her.   From what I have read you have provided full and public disclosure for your idea. It is readily evident and documented in these forums. It is "enabling", i.e. you have provided more than sufficient information for someone to replicate what you did.


In most of the world, there is no grace period. If you publicly disclose your idea, that is it, it is prior art (even if your own), and you can't get a patent. In the U.S., there is a 1 year grace period.


Many cables are already multiple parallel cables, so again, difficult to create a defensible patent around the concept. It is your money, which I am sure the patent attorney is quite happy to take. Patent attorneys write patents. You pay extra for patent searches.