Eh hem!...Subwoofers... What do ya know?

Subwoofers are a thing.  A thing to love.  A thing to avoid.  A misunderstood thing.  

What are your opinions on subwoofers?  What did you learn and how did you learn it? 

They dont have to be the same. So long as you have some sort of control over them. 
So I took the mains off their stands and put them on top of some weights. They are about 1 foot off the ground now. Sound is warmer but still not getting that low bass “bump”. If I stand up and put my head right above my head sitting there it is.

what I can’t get my head around is what the couch is doing to make this happen. I pushed the couch out of the way and there it is. Seems like it should be the other way around. The couch is against a flimsy metal frame table that’s 12” deep which then is sandwiched against the rear wall. Could that cavity somehow be adding to things?

Edit; moved the now lower stand speakers back 8” or so and now im
gettijg better bass. The imaging isn’t as good so that sucks. My speakers are -6db at 50hz but are really -6 for everything below 110hz and front ported. Now I’m more curious about a 40hz rear ported speaker would do. Hmmmm.

i now better understand the subwoofer’s role in things. Being able to bring my mains out 25” from the back wall (rear of speaker) and have the sub make up the bass I lose allowing the imaging that comes with being out into the room is cool.
Dont sacrifice any imaging . Your bass response is what it is. If its not good enough to your liking , go to the store. Dial your imaging the best it can be. 
@davekayc most likely no New speakers for me in 2020. Probably put the sub back in and make the best of it.

its all I can do
it puzzles me why individuals buy speakers with poor bass response

Let’s convert the word "poor" and say "deep." The smaller the speaker, the less likely you are to run into room mode problems, not to mention matching the decor (yes, this is important) and finding the ideal place for them.

Pretend physical size is not an issue. Say you have a 6" cube speaker that is flat 16Hz to 30kHz in a test chamber, with infinite dynamic range.

That could be a terrible sounding speaker in a lot of rooms. Speakers that measure anechoically to a -3dB point at around 40-60 Hz may end up being a lot better balanced in a room.

So the purist, who eschews equalization, if having to choose the best balanced speakers in his room, may end up with a speaker with limited bass.

I’m going to argue, again, that a lot of issues people attribute to subwoofers and ported speakers have less to do with speed and distortion and a lot more to do with how many dragons they wake in the depths.

If money is no object, build an acoustically ideal listening room with giant speakers.

If you don’t really care about boutique DAC’s and preamps, then a pre or integrated with DSP room correction is going to be your drug of choice.

In the middle of this are a variety of interesting opportunities:

  • Room treatment
  • Speakers with built-in sub and EQ a-la Vandersteen
  • Speakers with built-in sub w/o EQ like GE which at least let you set the bass level separately.
  • Separate subs with their own DSP
  • Multiple subs

So, to answer the question, it makes perfect sense to me why audiophiles would choose speakers with limited bass response. Getting deep high output bass is complicated, and expensive, and for a lot of music lovers not in their field of expertise. A high quality two way is often their sweet spot.