Eminent Technology ET-2 Tonearm Owners



Where are you? What mods have you done ?

I have been using these ET2's for over 9 years now.
I am still figuring them out and learning from them. They can be modified in so many ways. Bruce Thigpen laid down the GENIUS behind this tonearm over 20 years ago. Some of you have owned them for over 20 years !

Tell us your secrets.

New owners – what questions do you have ?

We may even be able to coax Bruce to post here. :^)

There are so many modifications that can be done.

Dressing of the wire with this arm is critical to get optimum sonics along with proper counterweight setup.

Let me start it off.

Please tell us what you have found to be the best wire for the ET-2 tonearm ? One that is pliable/doesn’t crink or curl. Whats the best way of dressing it so it doesn’t impact the arm. Through the spindle - Over the manifold - Below manifold ? What have you come up with ?
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Slaw - That pump doesn’t have enough output for a high pressure manifold, does it? The surge tank, at this point would not be safe run at higher psi, as they weaken over time.

Steve
The surge tank and original 3 psi pump in the picture provides clues into the history of ownership. I am making an assumption that another pump was used with that setup. Not available now, so the original pump is included. The original pump showing may also indicate that the tonearm started life as a 2.0 and might have been beefed up to a 2.5 by Bruce later....when he used to do these modifications.

As we know, Bruce designed the ET tonearm in a way that the tonearm PSI can be built to customer specs. 3 PSI to higher up to 19 psi.

I would recommend the person buying "that" tonearm to just pickup an aftermarket pump on the wholesale market and bypass the original pump seen in the photo. The pump as we have discussed here is an audiophile journey on its own, for the person that wants to explore that rabbit hole.

We have discussed here as well, how to determine what the PSI has been set for at the factory, for anyone buying a used ET 2 version tonearm with PSI unknown.

We can rehash if anybody wants. I do enjoy talking tech. Takes my mind of these markets - lol

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Pegasus
- Surge tank: My Airtech tanks end caps broke during a long time of being stored away. My replacement was a standard HDPE gasoline tank, 10l (ca. 2 gallons) with two 5mm holes drilled in the screw cap, with silicone tubing entering each hole, one with a short piece entering the tank, one with a long piece touching the "floor". The tank is filled with polyacryl wool for damping. The seam of screw cap / tubing then is "glued" with hot glue. This stays air tight since 10-15 years, and i’s cost were almost nothing.
- My original ET pump with ET 2 arm gave ca. 0.25 to 0.3 Bar. With the improved

Pegasus - I am sure your surge tank is built to Swiss Specs 8^0 and very good ....however

I am of the personal opinion that technical talk of surge tanks, scares new potential owners away. I think the air bearing tonearm talk itself may intimidate people enough, without getting into details on the tonearm peripherals. JMO

With that, I believe a better solution is to use a pump whose surge tank, and water removal functions are part of the pump's integral design - plug and play, no maintenance needed. How does that sound ?


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@the nature boy

re: your question about the ET1.
I believe your question was for the most part answered in the previous posts ?

Visually looking at both versions one can see many differences. The ET1 is probably as rare to be seen for sale, as the 2.5 for different reasons.

Now if one is of the belief that the vinyl hobby is a vibration resonance adventure; well Bruce has done "extensive" analysis on materials, resonances; just look at his sub woofer product Low Frequency testing, that he took to Africa to test Elephant responses. Anyway

Look at the materials used in the ET1 compared to the ET 2.0 and 2.5. The 2.0 - 2.5 have VTA on the Fly, exchangeable armwands, and an I beam design that allows for matching up to different carts.
Now with that, I am sure there are ET1 owners out there loving them, and they work great with their systems. It’s all about tweaking and tuning - isn’t it ?

Myself - I think a better question is what is the difference between the ET 2.0 and 2.5 ? It is not obvious to the general onlooker ?

Cheers

Chris,

The reasoning for my recent post was for Uber's benefit as I didn't want him to purchase that package and think he'd not have other expenses.

I appreciate your "warnings" to new users of the mindset required to take on an arm like the ET
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Steve
yes I understand.I have been in contact privately with Kevin for a while now about the ET2. I "may" be part of the reason he has not yet committed to this madness. We have been discussing amongst other things how to remodel his house, to accommodate the pump I am recommending him buying 8^0.

I got the message across that I give everyone - that one needs to be "all in" to make it truly work with an ET 2. It's a unique tonearm unlike any other I have ever owned, that lets you "dial in" after initial setup, to the rest of your chain. Like a team taking a race car to a different track. After the initial qualifying run, the tuning starts for the final race. They are on a deadline, we are not. The results can be very rewarding for the Audiophile..

If you recall many years ago, I acquired a Studer Tape Deck, and spent quite a bit on select tapes, including master tape dubs. They were incredible when I first heard them in my room. Became the reference point to shoot for - for reproduced music play. And if you recall it is what was used for reference against "Goldilocks and Three Turntables". An AudioGon search will allow someone to find out the detail with that adventure.

Today, after years of tweaking, refining that ended maybe a couple of years ago, my vinyl rig matches, and on some of those tapes, surpasses their reproduction. I bought the Studer as a reference point. It will now need to be hotrodded, like my vinyl rig, to get back on top. Thats an expensive route I won't be doing anytime soon. So in the meantime it sits pretty much unused. I have a whole record library to get through, and Tidal - Hifi has cut into some of my listening.

Cheers Chris

Thanks Chris...sorry to hear about the effect Tidal has had on you but we keep marching on!
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For Beers and Cheers amongst mixed company, Hi Fi Steaming seems to fit the bill.

Now if amongst the company there is an "audio gear" guy (always a guy so far), 8^0 ......they always prefer to see and hear two "tables" spinning at the same time, over one. I think all those accompanying lights flashing, at the same time as the two wheels spinning, does work towards setting an Expectation Bias?  

Do you know what I mean?