Ethernet connection for best sound quality


As far as I'm aware of for streaming audio with tidal hi fi plus ethernet. I need; besides modem and router.

1) A Streamer

2) A ethernet card specifically for audio jcat or matrix if I use my computer

3) Shielded ethernet cat 5 or better cable

So from wall to modem to router to streamer to dac, correct?

 

 

 

 

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Reading this entire thread (almost) I've come to the conclusion that  I know less than anyone in the conversation and about that there is no doubt. All I want is to connect my HiFi Rose 150 to my audio system and since it also provides You Tube to the TV as well.

Have a tech coming over, he asks me to pick up the cables. Have the modem, from another thread supposedly picked the right modem. Need the cables from modem to the Rose, Rose to Preamp, Rose to tv.

Can't tell you what  is needed to bring in Tidal or Quboze. Not afraid to get upgraded cables  Don't want wifi, all hardwired. Anyone with a knowledge of this, your help would be most appreciated. 

The dealer I purchased from has other things to do that are apparently more important. The unit will be on the way to vintage before I can get it hooked up.

 

Ignoring the sound better magic or not, I was checking up on the specs that have emerged since I retired ( we used fiber almost exclusively anyway)

7,  7a and 8 standards are proposed but will use proprietary connectors. Not RJ45s

Prices on cables have come way down. ( beware of source) 

Plain old CAT-5, UTP is of course sufficient for anything in audio unless you need magic .

5e is a little better with bonded pairs.  6 and 6a have a center core for more consistent impedance. 6a is also a little smaller.  CAT 5 to 6a may or may not have an overall shield. 6 and 6a may have individual pairs shielded.  CAT 6 connectors fit RJ-45 but are staggered pins in the crimp.  You are still looking at 10 ee-13 error rates or less with layer 2 fixing any that may happen.  TCP/IP is absolutely reliable bit for bit.  As with anything, I would not trust Amazon/E-Bay etc that the cables actually meet spec. Unfortunately BJC cables are not shielded but they are tested to spec.  So I have no guaranteed source for shielded cable. 

So for the paranoid, or want it because it is available, or bragging rights, whatever, 6a shielded is reasonably priced now.  I noticed most of the Netgear switches all have shielded ports now.  If you believe you need fantastic speeds for your streamer, you can get managed switches so the Internet to your streamer has priority.    You can even get a D-link or Netgear switch with a sticker on it for 20 times the price that says "audio quality"  It may have a better power supply. If you buy a data-center class switch from Cisco, it may be cleaner. 

I noticed the older unmanaged 5 port usually used 5V, but most 8 port and manages switches use 12V.  A couple turns around a big fat ferrite will knock any RF off those cables feeding the switches.  

I may upgrade as I have a WI-FI repeater and going PoE reduces the wiring mess.

We can measure anything in a data cable. We can't tell you which measurements may cause an audible difference. We can't tell you how well your device ports were executed. We can't tell you how good your Internet MODEM and router are but they can be measured.   This is the same in analog cables. We can measure, but that does not tell us what we need to target. Too many unknowns on both ends.   Without measurement I can absolutely tell you, no cable can add any detail that was not in the original source. That is magic. 

@akg_ca but you are utterly unqualified to do

any test like that, so it is garbage. It would like saying I did randomized control trial of the weight loss drug, sure, I did it, but it doesn’t mean anything because I am not qualified to conduct such a trial.

Seems like the author of this post is utterly incapable of listening and being able to pick out obvious and not subtle differences in their audio system.  

What a load of bollocks.

We do tests all the time, when purchasing new items. So badgerdums says I’m not qualified to listen for upgrade improvements in my system? Either on my own, or with a group of friends? But it’s my system. I’m the only one qualified to say whether I keep said items, or return them. He must be part of the ASR crowd.

This year I listened to, approved of and therefore kept:

A Puritan PSM156, Sound Anchors speaker stands, Teddy Pardo linear power supply, Puritan Ultimate power cable, Stack Audio Auva 70, Tubulus Argentus i2S cable, Plixir Elite linear power supply, Plixir Statement DC cables.

Fully qualified to do so, as is @akg_ca