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Frustrated with Vinly

Hey All,

Just coming here to let out out my frustration with Vinyl. I know that Vinyl takes patience but it's frustrating when playing some of my newer records and they have noises that I do not want to hear. Meaning, I try to clean them and they still have noise (pops, crackles, etc). When playing at low volumes of course you do not hear as much but when I turn up the volume is when it gets irritating. 

I can understand if older vinyl would sound like this but these are my newer records that I bought (amazon or barnes and nobles).

Now, I know the products that I am using are probably not great in the first place and I will probably need to upgrade to some more serious cleaner).

Currently trying to use a combo of: Kaiu Vinyl record cleaning set and I have also tried the Audio Technica AT6012 Record Care Kit.

So now I am considering either a Spin Clean type system or Pro-Ject  VC-S2 ALU Type cleaning system.

Any suggestions?

I almost want to give up on Vinyl sometimes and stick to digital (cd, hi res files, qobuz streaming).

Current equipment: denon dp-300f w/2m blue cart.

Thanks

Jay
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noromance
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Each to their own. But what Uberwaltz says is true. At a certain level of system synergy, vinyl has a magic all its own. If you've never been there, you can never know.
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rolanda
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The overload margin of the phono stage is a critical aspect of the noise issue.  The noise sources have a very fast rise time, and even though the RIAA curve turns them down, the feedback loop of the phono stage can get quite upset.  Also, a cartridge with a rather high tip mass can crash around when it hits a boulder in the groove making more noise than it should.  Finally, the Decca guys used to point out that a cartridge with a 3gm tracking weight and a low tip mass will be a lot kinder to the grooves than a high-compliance unit with a high tip mass.
The overload margin was one of the features of the original Naim amplifiers and went a long way in making them more satisfactory than their competitors.
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chakster
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Background hiss and crackles (not to mention limited dynamic range and the endless aggravations of cleaning) were never acceptable to me that’s why I stopped buying vinyl in 1983 and have never remotely considered going back.

Then the next generation jump into the game, i start buying vinyl in 1995, sold all my CDs quickly in the mid 90’s, and can’t stop buying vinyl ever since.

I can’t hear anything like background hiss and crackles that louder than music, so i don’t care. And i don’t clean records with special devices. My first serious turntable was Technics SL1210 mk2 and now i have many top quality vintage direct drives like Denon DP-80, Victor TT-101 (two of them), Luxman PD-444 (two of them)... my old Technics still here and still working without service.

Vintage vinyl is my passion, original pressings

Digital is so boring compared to vinyl.

Vinyl forever!

I want to remind people that even on live shows we’re not alone in front of the band, people make some noise around us, this is life. At home even with digital setup we can hear some sounds coming from the open window, from the neighbors etc ... this is life.

It is not necessary to be in the submarine, in the bunker on in the space to enjoy the music.

Silent background is not what we have in the real life


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jay73 OP
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@chakster 

Hi,

I know you have recommend the Technics 1200GR. I have no doubt it is a good and exceptional TT. But my only gripe with it is the looks. I mean it does look nice but too DJ for me.

As I said earlier somewhere, for me, looks are important too. When I am not listening to records, I want to look at my player and say, wow, that is a beauty.

Now, I know you're probably thinking, I am going to pass on a great player simply because it might not be as pretty as some other players and that probably doesn't make sense. I get it.

But what can I say, that is me. If I get a new table, it needs to perform well but also look good to my eyes.

Thanks for the suggestion, I am still kind of looking at it and it is still somewhere in my mind, so you never know.

Thanks
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