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Goodbye Sonos, hello ????

I've been a happy Sonos user for over 10 years and will continue to use it in my casual listening areas in my house. However I dont think I am doing my dedicated 2 channel system justice streaming from the ZP-90. In addition, Sonos does not do high resolution. Therefore I am looking for a high quality digital transport/streamer that can replace the Sonos. Here are my requirements:

1. High quality, low jitter digital output
2. Awesome user interface with remote control via IPAD, ANDROID, iphone, etc
3. Wireless and wired digital streaming from music stored on a NAS
4. No built in DAC as I prefer to mix and match
5. Ability to handle various audio formats including high resolution.

So far it looks like my options are the Bryston BDP-2 or DIY my own streamer. I have built several low powered (ATOM) HTPC in my home to stream 1080p movies so this is definitely an option but I am not too sure about how to get the best possible, low jitter digital output from a PC so this would be something I need to investigate. I can build an ATOM based, fanless system running Jriver and my IPAD to remotely control my music. I know there are products from Linn and Accustic Arts but these all come with either a DAC or an amp.

So are there any other audiophile quality products on the market that fit my need or should I just go the DIY route?

Thank you.
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knghifi
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the cable between the iMac and the DAC will make a difference - In my case that is a USB cable
OK, I thought you use ethernet between computer and DAC.

Even though my DAC has asychronized USB, I much prefer ethernet and who wants a PC in their system rack. LOL!!!
williewonka
3,075 posts
 
Confirmed - cat7 network cables didn't improve playback on my setup...

NAS ->cat7 -> router ->cat7 -> iMac + Audirvana -> USB -> DAC

But access to the NAS drive has improved a little - better cables fewer resent packets probably

BTW the USB cable is from DH Labs and performs extremely well.

Next - upgrade the router :-)
knghifi
1,668 posts
 
Confirmed - cat7 network cables didn't improve playback on my setup...

NAS ->cat7 -> router ->cat7 -> iMac + Audirvana -> USB -> DAC
Your result is not surprising. Me changing Ethernet is equivalent to you changing USB.

Next - upgrade the router :-)
Why if Audirvana caches the track before play? You should not hear any improvements changing anything before your iMac.

Now if the DAC caches, one should not hear any differences changing anything before it. Not even a belt driven transport. If you build them, they will come. LOL!!!
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tboooe OP
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Just an update...I decided to retask an HTPC I had laying around which is very close to specs of the CAPS Carbon server aside from the USB card. Using Jriver and Jremote on my iPad and streaming music wireless via the optical output from the mobo to my Dac, the sound is much better than Sonos. I can hear more micro details and the overall soundstage envelopes the room more. What I especially like is the ability to rate songs and have smart playlists, features that I always wished Sonos had. Needless to say I will be ditching the Sonos and moving on with building a SOTA CAPS server. This is going to be fun!
ig316b
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Tboooe
While browsing thru the forum I found your thread and started reading, since you already have a couple HTPC's and have found the joy of using JRiver and JRemote I thought you might enjoy reading thru another way of implementing your HTPC's.
Have a look at JPlay (http://jplay.eu/download/ ) it made a huge improvement on the playback and you can try it for free.
While you are there read through the manual about how to use the streamer mode. And then if you want to dive deeper into setting up your computer, read through the computer audio section of the forum at the Windows Server 2012 or Windows 8 Optimization threads (http://jplay.eu/forum/computer-audio/ ). You will be surprised just how good computer audio can be.
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