High End HT

Elise, Thank you for your input

you are probably right, there would be a difference. But i dont think there would be a big difference due to the audio content provided in DVDs. If this was also used for music, then Definatly, go for the better equipment. But for strictly home theater?

would you be happy with the sunfire setup? If not, how could you stand going to the theaters to see a new movie? There are plenty of very nice theaters here in denver, and the system i have in my basement is comparable if not better than them. Its not because the theaters have crappy stuff, thier theaters have as good of sound systems as any other theater you would find.

I dont see the importance of using high cost/ high end equipment for a home theater. I understand it for music, because you are really listening to it and paying attention to the sound. Audiowise all movies are is basically a musical score with sound effects. It does not take incredible speakers and amplifiers to make the movie sound as good, if not better than any movie theater.

Im not saying its a waste of money. i just dont think you have to spend that much to get incredible cinematic audio.

2 channel is just a different world, music is more than sound effects and dialogue

The system i have, modest it may be, killer sound it has, If anybody said it sounded horrible after listening to it, i would swear they have gone mad.

I guess, im just saying that in dont believe you need high end equipment in a home theater, HT audio is way more forgiving than 2channel, and HT almost seems like it is just dying to impress. I say use those brystons or Halcro monoblocks where they belong, in a real sweet 2channel setup.

Here is an example, My g/f bought me a theater in a box setup. She knows i love audio equipment, and it is pretty low end, but i love it anyway. We have it set up in the bedroom and i really have to say, for movies it sounds very suprisingly good, if you switch it to the tuner, it sucks., Play a cd in it, it sucks.
Put a dvd in it, and it shines. I just dont think it is necessary to use high end equipment, because the audio content in dvds is easier to reproduce than music.
(that excludes DVD-A or DVD music disks)

Details, all in the details. You would be surprised at how many little things you miss in the average HT setup. The background noises, the bump of an elbow, the creaking of strings and such.

Honestly I bet in some movies you might be missing ~10% of the total soundtrack. Most movies really have crappy soundtrack so what's the difference.....But some sound really good.

How much is this all worth, depends on the mood I'm in when you ask. When the bills come, no it is not worth it.

On movie theaters- All the ones I've been to really suck....

Marty

Slappy, I'm with you on this one, but think about this...I'll bet that many of the components in truly high end HT setups got their starts as components in high end 2 channel setups. By that, I'm talking about the trickle-down effect where, as the 2-channel rig is upgraded, the "old" components migrate to the HT setup. By that reasoning, if you had a $100K system, then a $40K HT setup would make perfect sense. I guess I just can't imagine anyone with that much interest in HT who didn't have even more interest in music. Are there any of those mythical people out there who live, eat, sleep and breathe HT but don't care how their music sounds? Oh wait...they are on a different message board....

Another aspect to consider is listening in other than standard 5.1/2.0 formats for 5.1/2.0 sources. Doing this well, with the operative word being well, could entail a larger investment everthing else being equal.

When I went from a 5.1 to a 7.1 system, I found a remarkable improvement in envelopment in my listening room, so much so that I would never go back to 5.1.

Based on personal experience, I recommend listening to a properly set up 7.1 system using Lexicon's Logic 7.

Based on what I have read in forums, I would also recommend listening to a Meridian PrePro system.

Bruce

Well, what more would you get? I have a home theater that qualifies as high-end, while my best friend has a more real-world system.

My best friend has the Def Tech BP3000TL, the CLR3000 and I don't recall his surrounds. No sub in his system, but no sub in mine, either. He uses a Denon AVR-5800. Mine is better sounding, that is for certain.

For video, I am so far ahead of what he has that it isn't even remotely close. Using a high quality HTPC for a scaler, I get DVD video that is far superior to anything from a standard DVD player - even the DCDi progressive scan units.

Add to that, I have an Odyssee motion simulator. There is no "cheap version" of an Odyssee. Check it out here:
http://www.d-box.com/html_en.html
I don't watch movies over at his place, but when I am there and things are playing, I just don't get immersed in it like I do at home. It isn't even close to the same.

While I didn't buy everything all at once, most of this equipment was purchased over the last 18 months.

I also installed a theater for about $14K at my friend's aunt's house. While her system is quite impressive to people who come over and have never really seen a well done home theater, it pales in comparison to what I have at home.