I am sick of cables


I have owned cables like Nordost Valhalla, Purist Audio 20th anniversary, Acoustic Zen Silver Reference, Virtual Dynamics Revelation, Argento Serenity. I have also auditioned cables like stealth indra in my system.

All I can say is that I am sick of cables, don't want to talk about them, audition them, not even see them....lol

Right now I have found a great combination of less expensive cables than the above which are perfect with MY equipment.

I was wondering why studios that record the music we are listening are not using super expensive cables...

In my humble opinion IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE AFTER, the most expensive cables are not necessarily better...

I said it, now I feel better...
argyro
The thing that I find strange is the one system that sounds so darn good with only the cheapest, while the other wants the high price spread.

Several possible explanations come to mind.

Your main system is better able to reproduce the bad as well as the good, and perhaps the expensive cables (which are often designed to be non-neutral) are filtering it out in the main system, while the secondary system can't reproduce it anyway. An example of "the bad" would be what is called "spectral contamination" due to ultrasonic and rf interference, in the paper I linked to in my post early in this thread. A quote from it:

The audio signal degradation caused by ultrasonic and RF interference coupling.... Any non-linearity in the device under test will create complex intermodulation products at new frequencies, collectively called spectral contamination. Because the new frequencies are usually not harmonically related and appear only when audible signals are also present, they behave more like distortions than noise. Generally, listeners describe the audio as "veiled," "grainy" or "lacking detail and ambience."

Also, large diameter cables with thick dielectrics will have greater capacitance than ordinary thinner cables, unless the dielectric material is chosen to have a lower dielectric constant. Although capacitance is often not specified, my impression is that many higher-end cables intentionally have relatively high capacitance, which may have a filtering effect as well.

The inexpensive components, in turn, may have instability problems or other difficulties driving high capacitance cable, or cable which is otherwise unconventional or non-neutral in its parameters.

Different source impedances in the output stages of line-level components will create different sensitivities to cable parameters.

Cable lengths may be different between the two setups; obviously that will affect sensitivity to cable differences.

Just some thoughts that come to mind; there are undoubtedly other reasons that are conceivable as well.

Regards,
-- Al
Argyro, so what are these "less expensive" cables you are using. If it is not a top secret.
Well let me tell you about my experience. I had bought this 2 way speaker system for my my DIY SET Amp and thought I should pry under the hood and see what cables are being used inside this fast very transparent speaker and to my amazement this small very thin solid core wire almost looked like CAT individual wires. Each wire only looked like 28 to 30 gauge and it got me thinking alot about the utter speed of this speaker and its opened fast quality.Lets try an experiment I thought. Lets continue this downstream and apply this principal to the speaker cable as well. So I happened to have laying around an old Kimber 4 PR Kabel I was not using anymore. I debraded the brown and black wires and used only one black wire on the negative terminal and one brown wire on the positive and HOLY COW BATMAN AND ROBIN what a sound improvement had I just done. The high frequency extension was mind boggling.
I could hear air billowing out from everywhere and I could easily follow the attack and release of a triangle unlike anything I ever heard short of live.
The sound stage became huge and vast. I wish I could write a diagram of what I had heard the before and after affects of this. The last time I EVER HEARD ANYTHING REMOTELY TO THIS IS when I listened to a Goldmund Reference 80K Turntable several years ago.
Well I hope this gets posted and give u all something to think about.
So IMHO Less IS more.
Happy Listening
Don C.
76DoubleBass,
I enjoy your experiment and I love to discover new thing myself. I have "popped the hood" many DVDs, CDs, and Pre/pro, and some mid-fi speakers (x-over) and I've always wondered same thing; what can I DO to those conservative OEM cables to improve the sound? Good experiment.

Hey Undertow,
"Build it and they will come..."
* With current economy, that term .... hehehe, j/k. We are doing pretty bad guys. This is the time I hate/scare to see boses approaching to me the most.
Alright, back to our cables discusions.