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Integrated or Separates?

This is my new 2-channel system that will only have the basics: CD source, Pre/Amp and speakers. Speakers, so far, will be pre-owned Proac Response 2.5's. Speaker cable currently is Monster Reference Z2 with spades. Source will be a quality CD in the $1500-$2000 range (used GamuT, Naim, Cary, Arcam, etc.). IC's yet to be determined. For Pre/Amp, a couple local dealers are pushing integrated amps (i.e., Plinius 8200 MK2) as the solution unless, in one dealer's words, you're going to spend $6000 on the Pre/Amp combo. My budget is only $2000-2500 for Pre/Amp new or used. Do you agree that a "quality" integrated makes sense for this system and budget? If not, what would you suggest? Music is jazz, classical, soft rock and voice. Room is 15'x17'x8' and open on two sides (living room). Thanks so much for your thoughts.
horn_blower
cellorover
424 posts
 
Horn Blower--

Sorry for any confusion. You may find that when you put all the pieces together that there may be other wires that mate better with the amp you select or make your ears happier. I have found that the Supra Screeend 3/4 Ply wires works great in my systemn as do Mapleshade and Acoustic Zen. But the Supras are what I own as they sounded the best. My daughter and son are "negotiating" over the Mapleshades. As I change amps next month, I expect to listen to other wires once again, but will start with what I have on hand. I am using a CJ MV 60 and decided to move over to the CJ MF 2250A. (BTW, thanks everyone for your input. It came down to the CJ or Aplha 30.) I run my CD player direct to my amp with a Rodersteen attenuator internally hardwired (about a 45 minute project).

Hope I have clarified things. If you have any other questions, please do not hesitiate to send me an e-mail.
pardales
652 posts
 
I second the recommendation for MAC 6500. Great sounding unit.
joe_b
421 posts
 
Quicksilver LS (I got a slightly used one for $550) and Quicksilver Mono Amps (around $1K or so used).
abex
322 posts
 
I have to disagree on a few fronts about picking a Int. over seperates.

The main reason is the ability to change out components when needed.If you want another amp or Phono stage you can do so without having to get rid of the whole amplification section & Pre.

Another reason is the fact that alot of recievers are no comparision to what seperates can give you.Biasing the amp to run towards Class A is a distinct advantage when trying to get rid of the veil associated with lower end equiptment.A good case in point is Rotel reciever's which do not match as their seperates in that area.

One more case I heard of was of Krell's int. which with my speaker's made them sound bright whereas their seperate amps did not have this problem associated with it.

JMO
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