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I have just read Art Dudley's review of the Quattro Supreme (Stereophile, October issue), a table spawned from the basic Teres design. (The friendship, then break-up of the original Teres group is also mentioned as a side story.)

I have no experience with the Teres but the Supreme - a design very similar to the Teres - priced at $6,000 got a "B" rating (actually meaningless, but someone's got to give it some rating because we are a rating-mad people!).

Why doesn't Chris Brady send Art a table so that he could at least give the Teres a good review and exposure?

Art's reference, the LP12, by the way, beat the Supreme in one area: PRaT.

Cheers,
George
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1. Teres has a 4-6 month backlog with no letdown in sight.

2. AFAIK, CB has expressed no interest in altering his vision for Teres. He prefers an activity level he can manage as an enthusiast. Running Teres is not his job, it's his hobby.

Unless one or both of those conditions changes, it's difficult to think of any reason for CB to court the mainstream mags. Teres doesn't need more exposure to meet or exceed its stated mission: to provide high end TT's at price/performance points that beat the mainstream competition. Not being a publically held corporation, unfettered growth need not be part of that mission.
George,

I don't think that Teres turntables and the Supreme should be considered similar designs. They both have DC motors, but very different controllers and even different Maxon motors. The bearings have some shared concepts but they diverge in both manufacturing and materials. Where the turntables are miles apart is in material choices. I have experimented with both aluminum and hardwoods and these materials produce vastly different results. So while there is some limited design commonality and common roots, sonic'ly they are nothing alike.

Not to nit-pick, but "the Teres" is kind of a meaningless term. There is a huge difference between a Teres model 135 and a 340.

So, why no Teres review? Well, two reasons 1) Nobody from Stereophile has asked. 2) If they asked I would most likely decline. It's a bit difficult to see how a review would be helpful. Demand for Teres turntables already far exceeds my production capacity. So a good review would if anything make things worse. But I have to admit that a good review would be a nice ego boost...
Chris,

If you don't get a big enought ego boost from those of us who own, have built, and expound on the Teres because we believe in your design, something is wrong!!!!

You know we could care less what some pinhead (actually, I kinda like some of Dudley's reviews, no matter how bad his hearing is purported to be) from a magazine thinks. As far as I am concerned, it's a Class A. Maybe when I hear something that beats mine, I'll reconsider. But I have not yet. And, I'll bet it would cost several multiples more, beacuse outside of my plinth, I'm toward the bottom of the Teres food chain! I wish I could have made it to Larry's.

But it would be nice if they asked....

Joe
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1 – Repeating a review in a vague form and drawing a comparison between a Turntable that that might share some design similarities with the Teres turntables and not even being specific about which of several Teres TT’s is patently irrational and slighting to a terrific company with an outstanding line of Turntables.

2 - Why would Teres consider involving itself with the dubious value of reviews from the magazines that are fraught with a conflict of interest of getting revenue for their advertisements from the same people they are reviewing?

3 – There is a plethora of exuberantly positive comments and reviews on the Teres products from an intelligent and articulate group of Teres customers. I have yet to hear/read a negative or less than enthusiastically positive statement made about the performance of Teres’ products or the way the Chris Brady has interacted with his customers. How many examples had you heard of the owner of an audio component company jumping on a plane at his expense to solve a quality issue (as Chris did) ?

4 - What benefit would there be for Teres to be reviewed and create a higher demand for their product for which they are back ordered and there is already a significant lead-time from order to delivery ?

5 - Why would an audiophile magazine’s review be of a greater or significantly additional value than the large number of Audiogon members who have posted their overwhelmingly positive experiences with the Teres Tables?

6 - I can tell you from first hand experience (corroborated by some sophisticated audiophiles) that the Teres 340 is a phenomenal TT and a terrific value at it’s price point. I can’t imagine having a person with a discerning pair of ears coming to the conclusion that the 340 is a class B table.

7 - Every time you read about some Audiogoner wrestling with the decision whether to get a Teres because he is unable to audition the table and he orders a Teres, you invariably read a post with him raving about what a great decision it was to have bought a Teres.

8 - How many Teres’ tables do you see go up for sale (very few) and when one is offered it is usually snapped up in short order.

9 - Here is a simple solution for you - Order the best Teres you can afford and spend your time listening and enjoying and stop spending any more time trying to find a review from a magazine. It is hard to imagine that you will be anything but thrilled with a Teres table or your dealings with Chris.
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Joe, Hope you are able to make it down the next time we all get together
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Doug, nicely said – another example of your normal articulate self
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Chris, Thanks for the great table and the wonderful way you handle yourself. I could not be happier.
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Larry