Jadis Defy can't sing with super high Fidelity PART 2

~~~Premium~~~ AU's,,,,well I kinda of think they area  special design AU = very unlike the short bottle = designed to push the AU to its very limits. 
I say thise because i'd bet any other short bottle would not match the magic of the Big Boys (=Tall Bottle = PSQe80CC). From the way these Philips ((((= same factory as Amperex = Amperex makes the tube FOR Philips = still i consider it Philips and not Amperex..why? because Philips engineers had something to do with the design = NOT Amperex)))
Considering how well these *mini watts SQ sounded,,i went and bid/won a  whole bunch of Philips Miniwatts AX's today on ebay,,,any of you bidding, yeah it wwas I out bidding you. I havea  nice stash and will only need 4, the other 10 I will sell at a  nice price..I am gambling on the PSQAX, that is also merits the magic of its bigger brother the E80CC = The tall boy. 
I'm guessing on a  hunch,,we  will see  in some weeks (comming from Swizerland). 
It will be a  shootout 
New design Shugaung 12AX7T vs Philips NOS Miniwatt AX. 
Repeating what i wrote above and other threads here on audiogon/also on DIYer forum, 
The PSQ E80CC is the center piece of my entire system, = SEAS Thos/Cayin 17/jadis Defy are all dependent and revolve around the 
~~~PSQE80CC.~~
= w/o the PSQE80CC, the entire system is dead.
At least with this Lite LS9 chinese pre,,,, = lets add a  Prima Luna pre with 6 au's, using any NOS tube (other than the PSQ),,,or the cayin SC6 pre,,,its quite possible the system will come to life. 
But lets think about it, I havea  serious weakness in my system, the Lite LS9 clone Jadis 200, (weighs 10 lbs vs the  real deal Jadis pre weighs 50+ lbs)  anyway,,if the PSQ can make magic with this weak pre,,,think what 6 PSQ ina  Prima Luna or 4 in the cayin SC6 would do???
Unthinkable. Off the charts..
I suggest, if someone is considering buyinga  tube amp/pre,,make sure has AU section. When the Philips Miniwatts AX's (= PMWAX hench forth) arrive i am curious how much the Shugaung is adding to the system (or taking away) and how the PMWAX  performed. 
This way I can determine to what degree the PSQE80CC is  carrying the magic. 
That is, if i can not hear much dif twix the Shu vs the PMWAX,,then i know for certian, it really does not matter which AX is employed, AS LONG AS THE AU section has the PSQE80CC, as The Critical Pre Tube. 
I believe it was lowrider57 who mentions the AU is the critical tube for a  tube amp. 
That is more can be gained froma  true high fidelity AU than a  true high fidelity AX. I agree. 
The AU  section holds the key position ijna  tube amp.  I will go futher,,,w/o a  true high fidelity AU, it really does not matter what AX's/power tubes one is running. 
Let me be clear, a  $500 pair Tele or Siemens in the AX section along with *Holy Grails* power tubes,,,will not make much of a ~~splash~~~ until one emplys a  true high fidelity AU,,the top dog THF(= truehighfidelity = no snakeoil/no hype= The real deal) is the PSQE80CC. all other AU's (yes even the Siemens/Tele $$$$$$$$$ Holy Grail AU's) will lose in a  shootout with 
~~The Big Boys~~ = PSQE80CC. 
as I say my system's true center piece in not Jadis, not SEAS, not cayin, but the PSQE80CC holds center stage. It is the Sun in my system;s solar system. 
All else are like planets revolving around the PSQE80CC. 
Hope some of this can be understood.
,,later

The factories were owned by Philips. They were the parent company and manufactured Philips tubes, Miniwatt, Amperex, Radiotechnique, Valvo, and Mullard UK.

And a tall bottle tube does not mean it has superior sonics. Short bottle tubes can have either short plates or long plates, O-getters or D-getters. The tooling inside the bottle dictates the sonics.
The Amperex 7316 PQ Foil-getter (short bottle) is their premium industrial tube and currently costs about $300 per tube.
https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649354167-rare-d-getter-7316-amperex-tube-highest-quaility-ulima...

I agree the Miniwatt PQ/SQ is a best buy. It may be the best of the Miniwatts and 12AU7 Bugle Boys.

well i am happy with  the PSQE80CC, ,, I'm seekinga  great AX.
I have the Shu T' series, really fantastic looking build,,,have some Philips Miniwatts comming anda  friend is sending me his fav the RCA tall grey plate,,not sure which design,,Hopefully its like the RCA/Baldwin/1957's,, what a great beefy looking build. 
He says it is what i am looking for..so that will bea  shootout with 3 top design tubes. ,,I'll post the results.,,,I am only keeping  1 quad,, the other 2 will be sold off. ,,my days of collecting tubes are over. . 

Now i am working on finding a  super special 12AX7 for the Defy 7,,,no, not just any old AX,,I am looking for the Holiest of Holy Grails. 
RCA long greys?
PQ amperex?
Shugaung T series? 
No one can say for sure unitl i roll these 3 pairs in 3 weeks. Will post findings. 
Only 1 gets the cigar,,the other 2 are set for the chopping block. I don't collect tubes, sorry, those days are gone, You go ahead and collect, Not me, 1 set is all i need

OK, she's singing now, and I have alotttttt of mods/upgrades to make in my entire system. 
I want 1st off to thank whoever mentioned that the AU section tubes is the biggest gain for pre amp section, NOt the AX section, he is correct, when i swapped out the AU's for E80CC's, the sound fq resolution increased DRAMATICALLY, Like Night to bright sunshine.
The AX section, I am not hearing much a  dif twix, Siemesb  $$$$$$$ tubes vs any old AX (except NOT cheap chinese and russian AX's which are both worthless trash). 
All NOS tubes made in the late 50's, 60's are ALL EQUAL IMHO, = Do not drink the snakeoil about Siemens. Sure they area miniscle better, possibly,,I am in a  long testing period of AX;s. 
At the end of the testing, in about 4 months,, it is my belief my theory of ALL NOS AX;'s are EQUAL,,will prove true. 
The real deal ina  AU/AX pre section is the critical AU's. as someone here , maybe in this thread, mentioned is the CRITICAL tube in the Jadis Defy7. 
= no need to spend $$$$$$$ in the AX section, any old NOS, RCA/Amperex, Tele, Siemens/Philosp, Syvania, etc etc,,will work just fine..

My purpose of this post is to take some of the snakeoil out the sellers market in *Holy grail* AX tubes. Its all bunk, snakeoil.
The true Holy Grail is the Crwon Jewel of all AU's, the E80CC.
I have Siemens  and Philips SQ. 
The Siemens givea  miniscule edge over the Philips = Equal.
ou can see and hear my stereo in action
@3:30 is a  shot of the incredible 
~~~SUPER TUBE~~~~
The E80CC.
Tungstom, Philips, Tele, Siemens, = Equal. 
AX's NOS = Equal, save your cash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh9nf1GTM9Y