I have heard the first one and will be able to say the same about the second one by the days end.
Speaking of A. Farmer, are you familiar with this?
Although I happen to prefer the two I suggested already, "Modern Art" and "Portrait of Art Farmer" are better known:
On the subject of “influence” and Elvin Jones/Tony Williams. I think it is important when comparing players to not think too much in terms of superiority of perceived amount of “influence”.
Elvin and Williams were tremendously influential and copied by other drummers. But so were players like Philly Joe. Elvin and Williams would be the first to say it as Philly Joe was one of THEIR main influences. It’s a continuum. Jazz is always building on what came before stylistically and like any art form it reflects the time of its creation. Tommy Williams was heavily Rock influenced. He is considered by many to be the first Fusion drummer.. He was the perfect drummer for Miles’ “Second Great Quintet”. A stylistic period of Miles’ that clearly showed him headed toward a Fusion/Rock sensibility. Williams would not have been the perfect drummer for Miles’ “The Quintet”. I can’t imagine Miles’ “Cookin” without the feel and swagger that Philly Joe brought to the music.