Jolida 202a Tube Rolling Question 12ax7 12at7


Hi guys, a while back I purchased a jolida 202A to power my desktop speakers. I like the combination very much for accoustic/percussion music as nothing can quite beat it. However my $200 14 watt hong-kong amp is better for rock.
Before testing the other amp I thought it was simply a property of the speakers. But after putting the Jolida in my main setup I'm experiencing the same downfalls.

I don't really know how to pick tubes in order to get the qualities I'm looking for, so I was hoping that you guys could help out.

What I like about the sound now:
-Crisp details throughout the frequency spectrum
-Very speedy attack and decay on accoustic instruments

What I don't like:
-Very dry quality in the upper mids / lower HF
-Not enough tube bloom and warmth, too sterile
-The distortion at high power isn't like my little class A, (which just tends to get more blended and bloomy) but instead sounds rather grating in the high end and loses the bass.

Tubes I'm using right now:
4x JJ E34L's - Power
2x Electro-Harmonix 12ax7's in the preamp circuit
2x PhillipsECG 12AT7's as power drivers

I believe that the amp originally came with 4x 12AT7's though.
robxmccarthy
Forgot one detail

What I want:
A warmer fuller sound (less dry and sterile)
More in the upper bass (for rock)

Thanks for any suggestions
You must extirpate the EH 12AX7s. They are the culprit. The tube with the most midrange warmth and bloom is likely to be a long plate Blackburn Mullard ECC83. Any British tube would be better, The Brimar CV4004 is still widely available. The Russian tubes are not known for a pronounced midrange. The Germans make the best of 12AX7 type according to many, however more for clean transparent but strong signals but they have become outrageously expensive the 12AX7 smooth plates and ECC803s by Telefunken are legendary. Also try JJ new production KT77s outputs for headbanging. Do the same with the 12AT7s use Mullard 50s or 60s Blackburn ECC81s
www.tubedepot.com/ts-12ax7g.html

You really should try this tube. Its a winner. Drive, bass,excellent imaging and stage, with the smoothness of NOS Mullard or Brimar. Many NOS types are nice sounding, but just dont have the drive that make music sound real with the exception of the Tele ECC803s in the 12AX7 family IMHO.

I agree that the EH 12AX7 are not helping you. Your JJ's and Philips are good tubes.
I strongly agree with the above posts recommending new 12AX7s. The EH12AX7s were the stock preamp tubes in my amp and replacing them definitely yielded the the most noticeable and profound changes in sound. I found the the Groove Tubes GT12AX7M to be a huge improvement in warmth, dimensionality, and overall listenability (really helped eliminate much of the hardness I previously heard in the upper frequencies). I think both the Groove Tubes and Tung-Sol reissues would provide you with a much nicer sound than your EH12AX7s provide, and would be a cost effective upgrade if NOS tubes are out of your budget.
Good luck.