Linn Bedrok LP12 Plinth Upgrade

@lewm

Lewn, darling. Do the sums properly. I can see the price of the Technics SL-1000R as £18,999 at two UK dealers. The list price of £25,098 for the full Klimax LP12 less £6,050 for the Exstatik cartridge and £3,115 for the Urika phono stage works out at £15,933. That is considerably less than the Technics on a like for like basis.

And you could save another two and a half grand on the LP12 by substituting the standard Radikal for the machined one. Linn say that has no effect on sound quality.

Personally, I don’t care whether a turntable has direct or belt drive. I doubt if most Linn aficionados, as you call them, that I’ve met would even know the difference.

It’s Lew M, not Lew N. I live in the US, not in the UK. The price on the Linn website is $32,800. The price of the SP1000R at Music Direct is $19,999, or something like that. The list price of both TTs does include a tonearm. So, for a US resident, there is a roughly $13K difference in price, in favor of the Technics. However, I was not aware that the price for the Linn Klimax also includes a cartridge (AND phono stage?) If the Linn price does include a phono stage, then I do stand corrected. But that does not make the price of the Linn LESS than that of the Technics. They would be about the same here in the US, unless you posit that the Linn cartridge and phono are a phenomenal value.

I don’t. use the term "aficionado" as a pejorative. If you have owned the same TT for 30 or 40 years and have upgraded it along the way at high cost, and if you defend that TT on internet websites against its critics, then the term aficionado applies, in my parlance anyway. I’ll admit to being an ESL aficionado, for example, since I have owned nothing but ESL speakers of one kind or another for more than 45 years. You could also say I am an aficionado of OTL amplifiers to drive ESLs. I also beg to differ with you on Linn owners. They are an intelligent lot who certainly do know the difference between belt-drive and direct drive.

@lewm

I am sorry about spelling your name wrong. Does that mean you don’t love me any more?

My original point was that the SL-1000R and Klimax LP12 are in the same ball park price wise.

You aggressively contradicted me by saying the Klimax is massively more expensive than the Technics.

I showed you evidence from the UK that clearly shows that it is in fact the other way round.

If you now want dispute that, I suggest you get hold of the US Linn price list and make the comparison on a fair like for like basis in dollars. I’ll be very surprised if it makes that much difference.

an insulting price,

Denon DK-300, $354. in 1981, including the dust cover, 65mm thick

JVC 7 layer composite plinths are 59mm thick, also with dust cover

Linn's is 66mm thick, no special composite, just beechwood, glue, pressure.

Sony made a rare composite plinth, I can't find it quickly, going out the door now

@elliottbnewcombjr

Prices can’t be insulting. Only people can do that.

Manufacturers are entitled to set their prices as they see fit. If you consider a price too high, the remedy is in your own hands. Don’t buy the product. If sufficient people feel the same as you, it will fail in the market. So far, that has never happened to Linn so their track record is pretty good.

The Bedrok has been public knowledge for couple of years now. If it’s nothing special in its manufacture, why have none of the companies in the LP12 accessories market like Tangerine produced one cheaper?