Long Speaker Cables/Short Interconnect or reverse


I'm considering re cabling my system and have a question regarding the desirability of using of long speaker cables with a short interconnect, as opposed to shorter speaker cables with a long interconnect. I currently run a 21 foot pair of speaker cables from my equipment stand to my speakers, and a one meter interconnect between my pre and power amp. I could move my power amp closer to the speakers which would allow me to use a 11 to 12 foot pair of speaker cables, however would necessitate about a 11 foot interconnect. My preamp is an Audible Illusions L3 which does not use a cathode follower and has a relatively high (1.2Kohm) output impedance, however they claim a longer interconnect can be incorporated as long as it is of a low capacitance type. It is a single ended pre so a balanced interconnect is not possible. So is it advantageous to cut the speaker cable length by 10 feet or so if the interconnect is lengthened by 2+ meters? My speakers are specified as 8 ohm nominal, 6 ohm minimum (I read a post by the technically well versed Almarg who stated that allowable cable length is dependent on speaker impedance), and my amp is solid state with an input impedance of 50K ohms. Although logistically trickier, I could also possibly move both the preamp and power amp closer to the speakers, and run the longer interconnect from my cd player (RA Opus 21 with an output impedance of a low 100 ohms) which would need to physically stay where it is
Thanks in advance for all your advice...
weebeesdad
Are you considering this upgrade just to change the length of your cables? If so, I think the differences will be very small, if any. I think the money can be better spent upgrading something else in your system. If you call The Cable Company, they can give you some good advice, as well as send you some demo cables to try first.
Thanks, guys, for your input. The thought behind this was to possibly upgrade the speaker cables, and perhaps use a pair of 12foot runs of a cable I already own (JPS, from another incarnation of my system which was in a smaller room), or buy a new pair which would be more available (particularly used) and less expensive in the shorter length. I current run Signal Cable Silver Resolution biwire, and have just received a trial pair of Clear Cable Double Shotgun cables which are, as per Paul's suggestion, now breaking in before any critical listening takes place. Not sure of the inductance or gauge of these, Al, however I'm guessing that for the long length you would suggest running two pairs for the biwire as opposed to one pair and jumpers (would this effectively lower the gauge?). Also, in a fit of audiophile madness, I may decide change to a tube amp - don't know if, or how much, that would impact the compatibility of using the longer cable run...
Thanks,
-Brad
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Brad, to the limited extent that speaker cable performance can be predicted based on technical parameters, with resistance and inductance usually being the most important ones, biwire Signal Cable Silver Resolution is an excellent choice for a 21 foot run, given the impedance characteristics of your speakers. I'm less certain about the Clear Day Double Shotgun cables, even at 11 or 12 feet.

In saying this I'm assuming that the goal is for the cables to have as little effect on the signal as possible, as opposed to acting as tone controls to some degree.

I've been puzzled by the technical descriptions provided at Paul's website. It indicates that the conductors are 24 gauge solid core silver, with the double shotgun version using 4 conductors for + and 4 conductors for -. In silver that would equate to a little heavier than 18 gauge for each conductor (closer to 18 than 17). Yet a separate indication is provided, apparently referring to a single pair of conductors, which states "resistance = 0.00325 Ohms/foot run." That corresponds to a much heavier gauge than even that double shotgun equivalent, and one which I would not expect to be achievable in pure silver at anything close to the prices Paul offers.
Al, however I'm guessing that for the long length you would suggest running two pairs for the biwire as opposed to one pair and jumpers (would this effectively lower the gauge?).
What would lower the gauge more effectively would be to run two pairs in parallel, in other words, with the jumpers in place. Although since biwiring is alleged to often provide other benefits, it might be worth trying it both ways, with and without the jumpers, using a variety of recordings.

Regarding the JPS cables, I don't see enough technical information at their site to comment. Regarding compatibility if and when you change to a tube amp, perhaps all that can be said is that the more closely the cable approaches behaving in a neutral/accurate manner in combination with your present amp and speakers, the more closely it will do so with the tube amp.

The bottom line, IMO: While you may or may not find the Clear Day cables to be subjectively preferable to the present Signal Cables, if neutral/accurate behavior of a long length is the goal I would have a higher degree of confidence in Signal Cable. Given, as I said earlier, that the predictability of all of this is of course limited.

IMO. Best regards,
-- Al