LYRA DELOS CARTRIDGE TOO BRIGHT, THIN AND SHRILL SOUNDING


Have had a Lyra Delos Cartridge for the last month and have any of you goners noticed a elevated treble, shrill thin bright sound from this Cartridge? I wish I had my HANA ML back. This Lyra sounds horrible!!!
jeffvegas
I've been using unipivots that came stock on my VPIs for...7 years at least and while I'm not qualified to talk about what the advantages/disadvantages over a gimbaled or knife-edge or univpivot, my Lyras have worked splendidly to my ears.

Now, having said that I understand how people can be really dissatisfied with too bright. I hate it myself especially with my aging ears. But I found, at least in my case, the balance of the system is what is the crucial factor. My whole system, or at least half of it (the power amp and the speakers) err to the warm side. 

The one "warm" cart I owned (a Koetsu) I found to be far too muffly and wooly for me.

Anyway, seems to me that every component has to be considered to get all these things mostly right. I tend to think most every modern speaker these days (saving some British models and a few others) tend toward bright and forward and if the cart is bright, the amps are analytical, etc., you'll be far to an extreme and that could be the problem people are having.
You guys are treating this thread as a serious thread and the poster as relevant. Could anything be more ridiculous?
I do believe the Delos is tipped a little towards the highs but it still sounds great.  It has great resolution for is cost.  Try a lower tracking force.  I always thought 1.75 was too heavy on my system.  Around 1.7 sounded the best. 
The assessment as being publically made known as being 'horrible' is about a MC Cartridge owned for One Month.
There is not a reference made to the Cartridges 'hours of usage' within the Month of being owned.

A Cartridge that has had limited Hours of usage, does not create the best time to assess the overall performance, the Cartridge is going through a settling in period.
In general the view is that a Cartridge will start to present at its best with approx' 100 Hours of usage.
My own experience when using this as a Guide, is that the perception of a improvement will become noticeable.
Additionally the Balance across the frequency range will become Cohesive, and not perceived as a Certain Frequency being overly present.

In the early Days of using a Newly Rebuilt MC Cartridge on my System,
using a Valve MM Phonostage and Hashimoto SUT
the Bass was noticeably concealed and the Mid's were Projected and the Highs were Dominant.
A Silver Wired DIN Plug Tonearm Cable, made the Highs quite noticeable and dominant, I won't use the term SHRILL, as this is very Subjective as a description.
According to my notes taken,
the Copper Wired Phono Cable was used for much of the Settling In Period, which was attractive as it was offering a perception of adding a richness and little extra authority and weight.

The Rebuilt MC Cartridge was used in a friends System with the Same
TT and Tonearm, on a few occasions to be compared to other MC 's throughout the first few hundred hours of usage.

The Rebuilt Cartridge showed noticeable changes during the demonstrations, and all were for the perceived as being Better during each of the occasions where the usage was increasing in Hours.
The Rebuilt MC is a much Valued Cartridge and one that is to be maintained, and another MC from the same Brand is to be produced with a similar design.

The Silver Wired DIN Plug Tonearm Cable was also put back into use after approx' 100 Hours of the Cartridges usage as it was seen to be the Better cable, over the Copper Wire and was now able to deliver a very attractive sound quality.

A New Cartridge with very limited usage can not offer a True Insight to the Cartridge's Capabilities as a performer,  a Run In Time is vital to be allowed for. 

From my own experience and from those experiences made known from Friends with similar interests in Vinyl.
Only after allowing for about 100 Hours of Usage, can it be decided if the Cartridge is able to offer a performance that is attractive and satisfying.
Also at around this time of usage will the Cartridge best show how it can interface with other Ancillaries

In my case the MC was a Rebuild carried out to a unique Spec, If the end product was not meeting my preferences then Hey Ho, at least I had a new experience under my hat.
Not a lot could be said by others as the general contributors to a Forum  would not know of a Product done to the Spec I had commissioned.

In the Case of the Lyra Delos, this is a Well Known Cartridge and has been experienced by others in there own Systems or in a System used to demonstrate it.

From the information being supplied within this thread, it seems there is a lack of information being made available to show the set up the MC is in use at present, apart from the info that there was a Demo of the MC on a Valve Device.

One thing is very evident, there are posts that are a valuable support being offered to help understand the cause of the condition that has  raised a concern.      

     
IME, there is no component (nothing) that sounds "bad", "horrible", "wrong" out of the box, and turns into a good, great, fantastic after x hours. The real character is audible within the first hour. After that it is only about smoothening out and opening up overall. If you don't like the fundamental sound of Lyra in the first hour, it is going to be the same even after 200 hours.