Martin logan prodigies


I seriously considering the martin protigies but some of the reviewers seem to have some reservation about the low bass extention at only 28HZ . I need some advise vis a vis the bass. It also seem that in their views a speakers that cost 10K should have been disign to go much lower. what are your opinions.
patou
patou,

i'd look into the newform research nhb645's or r645's. check out their www & the reviews at audioreview. at ~$2250 delivered, w/30-day in-home audition, there'd be lotsa $$$ left over for a sub system... ;~)

doug

Buy the Quad 989's - no contest with the Prodigys - less money - fuller sound - goes low with just the right amoount od balance. Pus these with tubes like the EAR 534 amp or even the mcIntosh 275. Full range electrostats are the way to go.
You might try listening to the new speaker from Martin Logan, the Ascent. I recently heard this on what I considered mid-fi electronics, B&K & Yamaha. The new voice character of this speaker is truly amazing. What I think is more amazing, is its price, $4,000. These speakers would be a great match for the new Jeff Rowland model 10 or 12. These solid state amps will not only provide great Mid range & high end performance but will really give you performance at the lower octaves as well. If you combine the price of the JRDG amps with the reduced cost of the speakers then it becomes a more cost effective match. Or maybe consider a used JRDG model 8ti. You might do that package around $11,000, not much more than the speakers you are considering. But the sound will be angelic. Good Luck
Concur with the guys that say that full range esl's are the only to go. Hybrids, whether esl or ribbon still have the big problem -- crossovers and different types of "drivers". Affordable speakers haven't gotten this right yet. Heck, most unaffordable hybrids haven't gotten this right either. ML hybrids offer just a "taste" of esl mid range transparency with their punk-ass panels. Sorry fellas ,but dis is da truth. Panel size has everything to do with the ML esl experience. If you want Quads I suggest you you back to the earlier models. Back to early 63's or 57's if you can find them. Quad's have really suffered with age. Crosby mods are a good thang. There is only one, and only one, esl that can give you most of the benefits of electrostatics and balls at the bottom -- dat be da big mojo, mofo Sound Labs. (Good luck with service, though, keep your little Aerius or SL 3's as a back up). Full range esl's do have their shortcomings -- while bass is extremely accurate and mid-bass is strong (hell, %^&^%&9@! generous) with the right recordings, these don't get "raucous" (without well thought out and costly subs, at the expense of some transparency). That said, I've embraced and struggled with ribbon/plannars and electrostatics for the past 15+ years. These types of speakers can bring you closer to the music... given associated equipment and source material... than anything else. But you have to be prepared to live with them. I live with them and love them 90% of the time. Once you have a taste of real detail and transparency, you can't go back, only try to find nirvana.
Jim -- Why da you talk da way you do -- know wha' I' sayin'? You seem like you da man and you down wit' the info on some bad ass kit, but den you lose my respec' when you talk like you on crack, know wha' I' sayin'?