@jerryg123 all I might add is your article cited is from last year and the one I cited from this week. It’s a dynamic situation hence the numbers change. That’s how these things work. Hope that helps.  You can call me whatever name you like. Means nothing to me. Cheers. 💋

Last year. 3 months ago.

Are you boosted? If not you are going to die.🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🐤🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃🌃 is falling.

I am boosted and 97 times LESS LIKELY TO DIE FROM Omicron that is 91% less fatal than Delta. So now lets get on with life.

Twist it any way you want.

Baaah Baaah 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑

 

The data are really stunningly obvious why a booster is really very important,” Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said during the briefing.

@mapman I do understand the frustration, but minds are no longer changed. Seems like more and more people in this country are only tuned in to information that conforms to their confirmation biases. The winner in these arguments is who can get in the last word, doesn't matter how many times its repeated.

 

This place sometimes reminds me of how when we were little kids and told another kid they were a dirty bird, no, you're a dirty bird response, put on repeat until both kids shouting in unison.This place getting bad reputation as place for mean spirited, ugly disposition people. I'm getting close to checking out of here.

@sns LOL!

Change minds LOL

If Neil Young wants to (and has the ability) pull his music, more power to him. HOWEVER, Neil recently talked positive about Amazon Hi Rez (I think he gave away some one year subscriptions). What is disappointing about Neil is the following

 

1. All the controversial quests and authors from Rogan's show all have books being sold where?...Amazon.

2.Lots of Joe Rogan, merchandise, books about Joe, etc...where? AMAZON

3. Amazon has taken Wal-Mart’s place as the "grim reaper" of manual labor for it’s practices.....Where’s Neil’s concern here?

4. Neil is not a stranger to spreading bad science info himself

 

 

So my take is there are only two possibilities with what Neil is doing

1. Neil is stupid

2. or, Neil thinks everyone is is stupid

 

@mapman I do understand the frustration, but minds are no longer changed

No way to know. People aren’t going to volunteer that info I would reckon. But some things are worth fighting for. Like peoples health and well being for example. If even one person comes to a realization that is something Or one can just give up and accept misinformation in which case we may be doomed if all were to follow that course. The truth rules. Hopefully we all have some success seeking it.

 

Now that is rich.

Like peoples health and well being for example

The truth rules. Hopefully we all have some success seeking it.

 

Only a stupid person by definition think that all other people are stupid... then conclude yourself...

1. Neil is stupid

2. or, Neil thinks everyone is is stupid

@jerryg123

I thought you were playing hockey now or something?

You can mock me all you want. Keep trying!

@mapman not mocking you showing the flaws in your sheepish ways.

Waiting for the ice... Zamboni is prepping our surface now.

Love your dedication to misinformation.

Always question the Government. A lesson we should have learned from 1939.

Ice is ready got to put up the phone.

Go with God.

People argue about covid statistic ... This is ridiculous..

what matter is not numbers...

The source of the numbers matter...

The method to interpret them matter even most..

But forget the covid numbers..

Only look at all totalitarian control in creating a mass hysteria OUTSIDE of any simple health science known rules before this virus appearence...

This is not a health crisis at all..

but i know that many people are completely hypnotized by fear and propaganda...

it is not important that the PCR test was a fraud and could not be a testing device... it is a replicating device mechanism and even his inventor Kary Mullis describe clearly why it cannot be a testing device...i read his book...

It is not important if the Nobel prize winner Luc Montagnier denounce all this fraud and Fauci , who is a totalitarian health bureacrat not a scientist like Montagnier..

It is not important that the guy who made the first many patents about mRNa vaccination method Dr. Robert Malone denounce his massive use and the way it was used as pure insanity...

It is not important if two ex top researchers in big pharma corporations like top research vice president of Pfizer Michael Yeadon and ex top vaccination researcher for Bill gates Gert Van Den Bossche denounce all this mandated forced mass vaccination to be criminal..

It is not important that the most published doctor on covid treatment science in the world, Dr. McCullough denounce mass vaccination in a 3 hours rational discourse with Joe Rogan but no, Neil Young know better than him...his music is so good...He must be right... 😁😊 People are simplistic like that....

it is not important after all these lies that we censored anyone who dare to tell his truth ...Freedom is less important matter for sure for the like of Neil Young...

There is only one truth anyway...

Guess where this truth come from ?

God?

No...

Fauci?

No...

Who control all medias and official news, who control google and any other network directly or not and who control Health organization and all the vaccination industries worldwide? who control and pay for all fact checkers of the world?

It is not Fauci nor God...

it is not a scientist nor a doctor..

Only one of the few rich big corporation dictators of the world beside Xi in China and beside some few others...

Bill Gates is the only one fool to ask for vaccinatons of all immediately and world wide... AGAINST ALL SCIENCE but for the benefit of his own patented owning technology ,Why?

Read the physicist and now anti globalist researcher for many decades Vandana Shiva...

 

 

 

 

@jerryg123

 

No but i will call out your apparent dedication to misinformation since I clearly stated up front from earlier in this thread that misinformation is exactly the thing I am against.

See how misinformation works? Falsely accusing others of what you do will not work.   Baa!

 

@mapman Face off in 5 so. 97X with a variant that is -91% fatal.

Yep my misinformation.

See how that worked.

Go with God.

Oh yea 1939

You might want a refresher on how statistics work as well before spouting them in public. 
 

Oh well I bet you are an awesome hockey player. Used to play myself. More street than ice. Got some scars to prove it. Baa!

If you listen to the news, you would go around believing all the unvaccinated are already dead. Not getting a Gene Altering Experimental vaccine is as good as a 100% guaranteed Death Sentence. 

 

Pandemic of the Unvaccinated.....wait......it's no longer that????

It's been rebranded? To what......

Pandemic of the Unboosted?.....but I thought the vaccines were God's gift to man, and were 100% effective 95% of the time? what happened...

 

I dont cited any numbers in my last post...No one here has the competence and the time to verify analyse and compute all facts numbers...

It is useless to argue about numbers..

Try to be logical...Read my last post...

Only facts there anyone can see with his own eye , easy to verify...

Who dare to contradict any fact in my last post ?

Add them all together... what do you see after that addition?

Do you see that any news journalist is right against all these scientists and many more i dont put in my last post...

Do you think senile Neil Young is a trusted guide to truth and freedom against all these scientists who risk their money, time and career in some case and attacks to spell the truth ?

Add 1+1 it will equal 2...

 

«We know that brain are not a vegetable but are we sure? After all i have seen many brain  in a  decorative glass jar»-Groucho Marx 🤓

@yuviarora I am not an anti vaxxer. I am against a Government Mandate when the Government has been more wrong than right.

@mapman I was awesome in my 20's not so much anymore. Just having fun. 1st intermission.

Also you should read this: 91% is correct. This variant is weak 91% less fatal than Delta and that is a fact.

 

One more time.

I am not anti Vaxx.

I am against the the Government Lock Downs (don’t work), Masks that do nothing and Vaxx Mandates.

Vaccination should be between you and your Doctor.

I am also against Censorship.

Mr Young has been told and he is irrelevant.

I wasn't Anti-Vaxx before this pandemic, but now I am against all vaccines mandates, every single one of them. If I have kids in the future, they will not be vaccinated under any circumstances..... I have zero confidence left in the medical system, and want no part of it moving forward. 

@yuviarora Let’s do the math...Omicron is 91% less deadly (so about half the deaths/infection).....The American public can't do simple math.

Your IQ is, say, 100.

My IQ is 91% less than yours.

Is my IQ half of yours?  Or more than yours? 

Careful, it might be a trick question.

It is like that in all audio thread and most of the times everywhere else...

People argue about a tree not seeing the forest...

They argue about the meaning of a number...

Losing sight of the whole...

Like in audio when i entered in it 7 years ago and tried to understand, many were analysing with tools they dont master piece if gear, headphone or speakers, without knowing a thing about acoustic which is the most important factor in S.Q. way over electronic new design of dac, amplifier or even speakers..

Ignorance, especially crowned ignorance of the "specialist" is destructive of all understanding...

I am not suprized by the way this debate take the wrong turn...

Focusing on numbers and fleas on a single tree...

Where is the forest about which our attention must be turned?

 

For I.Q. check Wiiliam James Sidis life and forget about your own I.Q. versus other people I.Q.😊😁😊

Anyway beyond Sidis, what is the I.Q. of Christ or Buddha... It does not matter because never mind the working engine potential of the brain , the driver is CONSCIOUSNESS... And great I.Q. with low consciousness make someone more dangerous than a moron : Bill Gates...

Do you think that he is "intelligent" ?

No, because  pathological self interest kill any true knowledge and wisdom , nevermind the I.Q.

 

 

@noske I got my math wrong, didn't think about my reply,  and deleted my own comment...30 seconds after I posted it. 

So sue me,  eat me, whatever.....everything else I have said stands open to scrutiny. 

 

 

«Vaccine has "no significance regarding severe illness," says Prof. Yaakov Jerris.»

 

 

North americans people has no idea where Uttar Pradesh is...Their TV set never go there like say Trump it is a shit hole ... The news from covid coming from there means nothing to them...

Some of them may know where is Israel though ...

But now Rogan is a racist which say the n... word now....And spotify cancel 100 interviews of him without reason which had no connection with covid.., is it not a beautifully applied pressure to censor him more...

But hey! Neil Young is right , and he is vindicated you see, he sing well after all...

 

But wait a minute! This isreali doctor must be censored he spoke disinformation after all...

Why are isrealis news journals not so well controlled like their american counterpart, why did they let speak their doctors by God? why?

Dr. McCullough was suspended here in America and banned because he say BEFORE this Israeli doctor the same thing....He is one of the very few top cardiologist specialist in the world by CITATIONS and publisched research... and the single greatest expert on covid treatment by the number of publications ... Dont trust me VERIFY...He was PUNISHED by threats in America yes...a FREE country indeed....

I understand i think why israelis media news let speak their doctors , they are not too much idiots like Neil Young in Israel asking for censorship of doctors...

They need more Neil Young in Israel anyway without doubts some must think ...Too much disinformation....And he sing so well that they will keep him...Good riddance for me...Who need him here anyway, his beautiful voice is already recorded...

😁

 

 

 

 

Well I have a few things to say:

1 - MQA is a lossy compression scheme.  Don't get mad at me, read the Benchmark Media papers on it.

2 - Neil's Pono player with the Ayre output stage was the best headphone amp I've ever heard.  I don't know if Neil is an audiophile but his player sure was.

@sns + 1

’80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated’ says Ichilov hospital director

Vaccine has "no significance regarding severe illness," says Prof. Yaakov Jerris.

Israel National News

@mahgister ahhhhhhhhh stop posting Russian Disinformation.

Hov much money are you getting from Putin, you devil you?

Life Insurance payouts skyrocket +258% post vaccine rollout.

More confirmation that the Leaked Military data is accurate, and this increase in deaths is also reflected in the population at large. 

The global life insurance industry was hit with reported claims due to COVID-19 of $5.5 billion in the first nine months of 2021 versus $3.5 billion for the whole of 2020, according to insurance broker Howden in a report on Jan 4, while the industry had expected lower payouts due to the rollout of vaccines.

"We definitely paid out more than I had anticipated at the beginning of last year," said Hannover Re board member Klaus Miller.

 

 

He is the biggest voice in US Media and dwarfs all mainstream media prime-time hosts...combined.

what disturbs me greatly is that the US has already amply demonstrated it has the capacity to vote him in as President

@yuviarora 

You write that the vaccine is known to alter genes. Would that be more or less of an alteration than coffee?

By the way, which vaccine are you talking about?

 

 

Hov much money are you getting from Putin, you devil you?

mahgister KGB mole since cold war..

go bear wrestle with Putin - suffer many head trauma..

 

cDNA does not present the same obstacles to patentability as naturally occurring, isolated DNA segments. As already explained, creation of a cDNA sequence from mRNA results in an exons-only molecule that is not naturally occurring.8 Petitioners concede that cDNA differs from natural DNA in that “the non-coding regions have

 

been removed.” Brief for Petitioners 49. They nevertheless argue that cDNA is not patent eligible because “[t]he nucleotide sequence of cDNA is dictated by nature, not by the lab technician.” Id., at 51. That may be so, but the lab technician unquestionably creates something new when cDNA is made. cDNA retains the naturally occurring exons of DNA, but it is distinct from the DNA from which it was derived. As a result, cDNA is not a “product of nature” and is patent eligible under §101, except insofar as very short series of DNA may have no intervening introns to remove when creating cDNA. In that situation, a short strand of cDNA may be indistinguishable from natural DNA.9

 

@pesky_wabbit  2013 Supreme Court decision, that established precedent that natural DNA after introduction of MRNA creates cDNA, Complementary DNA that is a patentable/tradeable commodity. Pfizer now owns you, literally, figuratively, and legally,  

@pesky_wabbit  you are now a GMO. 

Megan Krench

July 9, 2013

In a unanimous decision last month, the Supreme Court ruled that naturally occurring genes are not patentable. But, said the Court, cDNA, a man-made copy of the genetic messenger in cells, is patentable. As a geneticist, I have my own opinions about this ruling. But the potential outcomes are important enough that all members of the public, not just biologists, should be equipped with the knowledge to evaluate it. The ruling may significantly affect patients’ access to genetic testing, and it sets an important precedent for future developments in the biotechnology sector.

The company that applied for these patents is Myriad Genetics. Building on the work of researchers around the world, Myriad identified the location and sequence of two genes that are sometimes mutated in breast cancer, known as BRCA1 and BRCA2 (collectively, BRCA1/2). Myriad filed patents for the genes in 1994 and 1995.

People can have their risk of breast or ovarian cancer assessed by finding out if they have mutations in BRCA1/2. Then, one can use this information to increase preventative care measures, like increased screening, or even having both breasts completely removed (a double mastectomy)--an elective surgery recently made famous by Angelina Jolie.

Myriad Genetics is the primary distributor of the BRCA1/2 test, which costs upwards of $3000. Because Myriad owned the patents on BRCA1/2, it was the only company that could administer the test for cancerous mutations.

The Supreme Court ruled that genes cannot be patented because "natural phenomena" are not patentable. That’s good news for doctors, researchers, and anyone who doesn’t like the idea of a company owning patent rights to pieces of your body. It also opens up BRCA1/2 testing to labs other than Myriad. But, the Court also ruled that cDNA, an edited man-made copy of the gene, can be patented. Ruling that cDNA can be patented will have important consequences for research, including research to discover new disease treatments and create new genetic tests.

Few people outside of biology research have heard of cDNA. In order to understand the critical distinction between DNA and cDNA, some background is necessary. Genes, which are made of DNA, contain the information required to make proteins. DNA is double-stranded, like a ladder. The familiar DNA nucleotides A, C, T, and G each have a complementary partner they always pair with: A always pairs with T, and C with G.

To make protein from DNA, several steps must happen (illustrated in the accompanying schematic). First, the DNA pulls apart into two separate strands and a copy is made. Instead of DNA, this copy is made of RNA. The copy, called pre-RNA, is not identical to template DNA. It’s a complementary copy. Next, that pre-RNA is edited so that only the parts that encode protein (the exons) remain. This exons-only version is called mRNA. The cell then uses the mRNA to assemble proteins.

For scientists, working with RNA is difficult; it is unstable and degrades quickly. So it is sometimes advantageous for researchers to extract mRNA and convert it back to stable DNA. The new DNA that’s created from the mRNA is called cDNA (see DNA to cDNA schematic). Just like pre-RNA is a complementary copy of the DNA template, the cDNA is a complementary copy of the mRNA template. It’s worth mentioning that cDNA can occur naturally; certain viruses can copy mRNA to cDNA (in fact, this is where scientists learned the technique).

 

@pesky_wabbit you are right any country that could elect Biden and Trump is capable of electing Rogan.

At least Rogan can speak clearly and is not suffering from Alzheimer’s.

Lol. Most people commenting don’t give a crap about Covid. It’s all about “ whose side are you on”. Get a life. 

yeah, I get the distinct impression that if COVID were to disappear overnight some people would have a huge vacuum in their life

The people in charge have plans to keep this covid crap going well into 2025.

The last 2 years were just a Dress Rehearsal. So yeah, it's not going away anytime soon, pull up a chair, and keep rolling up your sleeves. 

Wow, this thread derailed real fast when the crazies got going.

The point of censorship is a valid one, if the Rogan show was called “One idiot talking to another idiot about things neither understand or know anything about”, which is the truth.

People take a stand for what they believe it, you don’t want to get vaccinated, your choice, I will still be here long after you are gone, and I won’t think about your untimely departure at all, nor do I care too much that MQA is just a marketing ploy that some fall for, others don’t. MQA sounds significantly worse than the CD to me on my primary system, not too much worse with my headphones, and no difference with my AirPods. So you system makes a difference in what you are able to hear, if that wasn’t clear to everyone already.

But one thing is for sure, MQA is not lossless.

Should anyone be seeking a recently released DAC that has MQA deleted from its brain, the SMSL SU-9n is one to consider.

Its the only recent Sigma Delta DAC that I'm aware of that doesn't feature this insidious technology.

Will it ever be possible to have a rational Neil Young music thread on Gon ever again?

@pesky_wabbit Will it ever be possible to have a rational Neil Young music thread on Gon ever again?

Is that a play on words?

Luis Munoz was in my wedding. Lost his life to complications from Covid Feb 2 2022 Father of 6, Grandfather of 14 and 2 days before he went to heaven became a Great Grandfather. His beloved wife Bitsy has just tested positive an was admitted into Emergency with distressed breathing. I went to school with her, she was in our wedding too..

When YOUR friends and family are taken (Manuel Encarnacion in Aug 2020) by SARS tell me how YOU won’t get a shot. I’ve never heard such selfishness in my whole friggin life.

Argue all you want YOU ARE SELFISH. Period.

The only exception are isolated tribes all over the world.. They will dart YOUR A$$ for snoopin’ anyways. Rightly so.. Green GO!!

My Grandmother was 99 years old when she went to heaven. She had every shot that was ever created. TWICE..

My Mother in law & Father In Law, both over 95 when they went to heaven. Never missed a shot and gave blood every other month until they were 80+. They ask how old they were. LOL

Don't get shots, just walk out in front of a truck it's quicker and cost tax payers a whole lot less. No shots No brains..

@oldhvymec its not fair for you to guilt trip anyone into getting this shot. I know more people that have been severely injured by it, versus people that have been hospitalized for covid, and own bout with it lasted 8 hours, without the vaccine 🙏

This young woman is just one of millions of victims that thought they were doi g the right thing.

@kitechaser that’s heartbreaking.

Sadly you are wasting your time, these people have been bombarded by fear based emotional advertising for 2 years and the Cognitive Dissonance is cemented in. No amount of data or evidence can convince them that they have been duped..... get jabbed and get covid (the vaccine still works).... get jabbed and get hospitalized (the vaccine still works)....get jabbed and die (the vaccine is still working). This is a cult, madness of the crowds.....

 

@oldhvymec I generally like your post and respect your knowledge on audio and greatly respect your service to our nation and what you went through because of it. Why did you do it? Was it to protect the freedoms the people of this nation enjoy?

Time after time after time we have seen how the "experts" have been wrong about everything they've espoused. We were told to mask up then found the majority of mask are ineffective. We see those in charge decree what we must do in order to be 'safe' then we see those same people repeatedly do whatever they want to whenever they want to; a very real do as I say, not as I do. We see 10s of thousands of fans cheering maskless happily in college and pro sports venues, packed in like sardines then force children who are least susceptible to wear mask while in the classroom. We were told to lockdown to keep it from spreading and recent studies by Johns Hopkins show it had little to no effect. I am sure there are some who are trying to find a way to discredit and marginalize Johns Hopkins as we speak. How much damage has that decision by the 'experts' done to the economy? We have yet to see the full damage, but supply shortages and inflation are the precursors. I have a feeling it's going to get a lot worse.

The greatest atrocities man has seen have occurred because those in charge or the experts have decided they know best, and they hold the bullhorn and reins of power. China's Gret Leap Forward led to the starvation deaths of 30-50 million. The people of Germany were convinced by those in charge the Jews were the cause of all of their problems. The Great Depression was caused by government experts as well as the Dust Bowl of the 30's which crippled and disrupted the lives of millions. Countless times throughout history the common man has been the victim of the 'experts'. Usually this includes the marginalization of those who disagree, much as you and others who place their faith in this vaccine do to those who don't. You suggest we all just commit suicide to save taxpayer dollars while another poster in a different thread gloried in all of the extra parking spaces that will be available when we all just die. The concern over my health is touching.

We have all seen commercials for vaccines and medications where in the background they list all of the possible side-effects. Have you ever heard any commercials for this vaccine listing any of those? We know at this point that there are in fact side-effects and some for some that are deadly. Why? Why haven't we been told about them? Why is the messaging more important? 

We are all familiar with vaccines. I have been vaccinated against certain things. I never thought once that my vaccine would be ineffective unless you also had been. Have we ever been told the flu vaccine would be ineffective unless your neighbor had it too? Seems rather ridiculous when put that way yes?

I don't know who here is religious or has a knowledge of the Bible but this is truly some end times schitze going on. The prophecy states those who refused to take the mark of the Beast were ostracized and excluded from being able to participate in all commerce. It seemed bizarre when I first read that and had some comprehension 45 years ago or so; I never thought I'd see it play out in my lifetime. I AM NOT saying that this is that mark, but the correlation is scary and seeing those tactics employed is truly frightening and shows us how such a prophecy could be fulfilled.

If the vaccine is effective oldhvy then why are you and those who believe as you do care whether I or others are not? Why are they imposing such drastic measures and ostracizing any who dare to discuss and question? Your vaccine has protected you right?

 

... Northern man don't need him around anyhow!