New room, very small .Speaker Placement???


I am moving in a couple of months to our new home. It will actually be ours but the room I have available for my stereo is a 10'x11' room. What is interesting about this space is that there are two full parrallel walls and there are two parrallel 3 and 1/2 foot walls parrallel which the top of the area of the short walls is open space of the top floor of the house.The ceiling is 8 feet high. Any reccomendatuions on speaker placement would be greatly appreciated. One source says to use the full walls for the back of speakers and behind me and another source says to place the speakers in front of the 3 and 1/2 foot walls with my listening position at the opposite 3 and 1/2 foot wall. I'm confused. Do I go for the reinforcement of the full walls behind the speakers or on the open 3 and 1/2 foot walls? Remember my room is only 11x10 feet. The open short partial parrallel walls are 10 feet apart and the full walls are 11 feet apart. HELP!!!!!!!!
I should mention my speakers are Hales Transcendence 5's and my amp and preamp are Pass Labs. The Hales are large and I am thinking I may be able to take advantage some how of the 3 and 1/2 foot parrallel walls. Please advise.
Thanks.
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I am hoping the two short walls will largen the room. I can pull the speakers as far into the room as I like. If I were to have them at the full wall out 3 feet or so and about a foot and a half into the room from the side of the half walls. could that maybe work? Of course I will have to try it to know for sure but I am just looking for ideas. I am hoping because two of the parallell walls only come up tp 3 and 1/2 feet tall that I will have the effect of a larger room. If I put the speakers 3 feet into the room from the full walls and a foot and a half in from the side partial walls I wouldn't have allot of side reflection from the tweeters and the bass would not be as tightly closed in. If I do the partial walls in front of me and behind me I would get a deeper soundstage but would have the full wallds on the sides of me which would reflect the sound bouncing off the full wall. Basically I am wondering which way would work best in theory. If the Hales don't work I'll use my Jungson Monitors and store the Hales. The money that was put into them would not justify the perhaps $2000 I might be able to sell them for. The fact that they were modified lowers their value but I put almost $650 or $700 worth of parts into each box.
Time will answer all my questions but I was hoping for theoretical solutions to try.
Bass traps in the corners behind the speakers might help. I wouldn't trade in the Hales for monitors--I think it's better to try to deal with the problems an excellent full range speaker may have than to give up 'real' bass for what a monitor can do. I imagine that's unpopular, but so be it. You could also find a preamp with tone controls. Good luck!
Mitch, try using Cara Quick to play around with placement.
http://www.cara.de/ENU/index.php?load=quick.html (its pretty self explainatory... note that you can actually move the speakers and listening position in the little diagram of the room layout by click each item).
Everything is pure speculation until you actually move in. Dont't beat yourself up over it. Wait until you get everything moved in, then start the insanity. Good luck.
Well I made my Apogee full range ribbons work in a 10 X 15 room and everyone said it can be NOT done, when I got a new place, my room was much bigger and there was subtle difference but better difference since the Apogees need lots and lots of breathing room, the treatment cost me a fortune but it worked to my liking.

If you do the math to be honest, you are better off revamping the speakers cause I believe the Hales T5 can NOT be toed in too much compared to most speakers and its big too and therefor you sweet spot if going to be far off behind. The distance between each speaker is going to be a trick as well with the Hales. Try it and see if it works, dont give up easily. If you can kill all the standing waves that the Hales is producing based on its volume then...... shop around for something new with speakers. If you ceilings were higher, at least something like the Martin Logan Aerius would work well to but with 8 feet heitht to work, monitors would be the best and dont be fooled by people with the full range sound and size of monitors, I had may big boys before including Wilson, Apogee Divas (my favourite) and now I actually prefer monitors for long term listning compared to the monsters.
Get a good high performance monitor and you will be in that room of your most of the time. Good luck with in.
And if you can, try looking up for software room acoustics and read about on them to get a better feel of the room.
It works sometimes.