New sonus faber Cremona M version


Hi

Saw that sonus faber has made a new version of the cremona called the cremona M.

Have enybody heard thise .

thanks
tda2200
Hi

From what i was told the intire SF cremona line is going out of production and the new M models is taking over.

It sure looks great.

I have done alot of speculation regarding the new models.

Now from what i understand the new m models uses better drivers there for it it should be better .

Im from denmark the home of Vifa, Scanspeak, peerleees ,Dynaudio , Skaaning/ audio Technologies , gamut and so on
The general oppinion is that is not the drivers that makes the magic its the designers craftmanship you will hear.

besides that
The org cremona uses all scanspeak revelator units wich are from the top shelf of scanspeak
thise hand sliced units are scanspeaks absolut best units Today and are much superior and cost more the the units in the amati homage.

The cremona dossnet use the scanspeak tweeter but the vifa xt25 .
Many here in denmark including me thinks that the vifa tweeter sounds more smooth then the Scanspeak version.

The org cremona toke 3 years to developed and it was franco serblin at his peak that designed it.

The new M version cant have taken that much time to develop.

Maybe it is indeed better but i have heard birds singing about sonus faber wandting to make money now thats why the come with new speakers all the time and why the dont spend much time on developing new speakers

I hope im wrong
Tda
you may not use English fluently but you describing things that's well understood. Maybe the original Cremona is best for you in an offer price but wait to hear the new one to be sure. As for the development in Cremona it was a big success and made a new one not by scratch but elevating it to higher standards. But let's hear it first.

Since you're Dane what Danes say about the new Gryphon Mirage? is it much better than Sonata Allegro or not?
It seems you Danes make some of the best audio gear in the world!

George
Hi kops

Sorry for my limited english skills spelling is my weak side.

You`r absolutly right about the new cremona M it may very well sound fantastic.
The elipsa are getting rave reviews and comments Especialy for the mid/tweeter unit.

But unless the use better kval crossover components i have my doubts if its better in every way.

What i love about org cremona is its musicality it just brings joy in me
if this aspekt is not keept in cremona M i have no interrest in it no matter how impressing it may be in other areas.

Gryphon is the one danish brand i dont no enything about but i have not yet heard an older amplifire that betterd the newer model version.

Kops i know you own the amati anniversario wich where conceived by the new RD department of SF .
this may sound like and much to straightfull questian but do you think that the new amati still have the musical and emotinal sound wich i seem to cherish so much about serblins sonus faber creations . ?

regards
I will jump in here and try to answer the question about Amati Anniversario emotional impact...
One of my friends who owns Amati Homage visited me sometimes ago to listen new Anniversario's. At that time I was auditioning Krell FBI int.amp with ARC REF CD7 cd player connected with Acrolink cables to Anniversario's. In his opinion sounds was "too modern, with too tight bass and way too many highs...". He left not impressed at all.
Second day in the morning he called me and said to me "that his Amati Homage sounded much worst latter yesterday when he got home and audition same CD that we were playing on my system(BTW, that CD is Hugh Masekela Hope-track 12 Stimela-IMHO excellent jazz/world music recording)!" He changed his opinion since he said that new Anniversario's are producing much more details without sounding bright at all... Accomodation period I guess...
In the end he sold Amati Homage and bought new Anniversario's as well...
In the end I would describe Anniversario's sound as "Modern and romantic" at the same time! These are not perfectly neutral speakers and you need to learn to live with some minor colorations(if you can not, there are many excellent alternatives). But, they really sound great if other members of your system are capable enough!
For me there is no doubt at all-Anniversario's are much better and complete speaker then old Homage.