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Payment by paypal,keep your records

Last year I had a guy from Canada bought a pair of cables from me, he said that he is going to have his friend from the US pay me with his paypal account,( around this time paypal doesn't have service for Canadians yet). I'm thinking as long as the money is on my account who cares where I send out the cables.So his friend payed me and I got the payment confirmation from paypal and promptly send the cables to Canada. Here's the problem 7 months later Paypal emailed me saying that the payment that was made 7 months ago was being reversed and they are taking it out of my account,paypal told me that the credit card company filed a claim and that the account that was used to pay me was fraudulent. So I emailed paypal back explaining the situation and even giving them the email address and name of the person that I sold that cables to. Paypal emailed me back asking for proof that I shipped the merchandise, something that they can track it clearly stated.Obviously I don't have a tracking number as I shipped the cables via USPS and who will keep their shipping receipt from 7 months ago?So I emailed guy I sold the cables to and guess what? no responce.And since I did not keep my receipt for mailing the cables to Canada I end up paying paypal the money from my account.

I really learned my lesson the hardway so just a reminder to everybody. KEEP ALL YOUR RECORDS and always use a carrier that has some form of tracking.Hopefully this doesn't happen to anybody else.
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dougholdco
34 posts
 
On those rare occasions when I have mailed someone a money order for something I was buying (I prefer COD for the big stuff) I wondered what kind of mess would be created by having the seller claim he never got the money order. Even if it were really "lost in the mail," which almost never happens, he would wonder whether I really mailed it, and I would wonder whether he actually cashed it but didn't ship. Do you send your money orders in such a way that they can be tracked, or just drop them in the mail?
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lolo
122 posts
 
Personal contact via phone helps me get to "know " to determine whether I want to enter into a deal. There are certain questions and responses that can tip you off if you trust the person you are dealing with. GOOD LUCK! FORGET PAYPAL - Sorry you got scammed.
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rmml OP
204 posts
 
When I send out money orders I usually use certified mail or overnight express just to make sure that the seller will really get the money order.This way the seller knows also that I know that he got the money. I think paying a little extra for sending your money is very much worth it for your own peace of mind.
j_thunders
173 posts
 
Doesn't that only work if you leave money in the paypal account? I never leave any money in it because payors can reverse only if there is money still in the account. Now if paypal started extracting money out of my bank account on their own, and none was left in the paypal account--then Lord have mercy on the poor sucker at the bank that would have to handle my complaint. I'd pack a lunch and turn it into an all day affair.
jeffloistarca
1,004 posts
 
Money order, by Fed Ex, is the best way to handle transactions in my experience. So far, I haven't been burnt, I attribute my "luck" to the quality of people who visit AudioGon. I'm sorry to hear about your troubles, and concerns me on a personal level knowing a Canadian took you for a ride. There are bad apples everywhere, fortunately fewer than the norm on his site. ATB, Jeff
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