Paypal Changes for 2022

If I understand this correctly, Paypal, along with all on-line payment sources like Venmo, etc. will now be sending out 1099 forms for all payments totaling $600 you receive in 2022 for goods or services.  The only way around this is to use Paypal friends and family for payment which eliminates any buyer protections.  Is everyone aware of this?


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As I understand the rule is straight and simple: no profit with in a sale - no tax has to be paid… just provide all the forms to your account or if you prepare your taxes personally, make all necessary calculations, if you have any profit - pay your taxes and you done. 

I agree with ghasley that this is a nothingburger. Here' why. The following assumes that you buy and sell gear as a hobby and that you do not have a business buying and selling things like amps and DACs.

For 99% of the gear you sell you will take a loss. When you report your taxes you will fill out your form and show that you took a loss on the items you sold. Therefore, no taxes due. If you sold 10 pieces of gear and took a loss on 9 of them you can use the total loss amount to offset the gain you made on one piece. No tax due again.

You do not need the receipt. This is because you do not send copies of your receipts when you file your taxes. The only time you might possibly need a receipt is if you get a TCMP audit (Taxpayer Compliance Measurement Program) where an IRS agent will go through your return line by line. This is very rare but if it happens you can show the agent that the retail price of the item is higher than the price you sold it for.. Any documentation will do - i.e. magazine review, internet review, audio buyer's guide, etc. If you bought it used you can probably locate a record of the transaction (email confirmation for example) to show that you sold it for less than you bought it for. Even if you have no records there's a miniscule chance that the agent will sweat you about it. They've got much bigger fish to fry. Just treat them with respect and don't piss them off.

I've had a TCMP audit and it's no fun but I can tell you that the agent is way too busy to be concerned about a few pieces of audio gear. They also operate by using common sense. Everybody knows that audio gear depreciates over time and trying to charge you income tax on something that obviously depreciated would never stand up if you contest the audit..

In other words, relax. When you file your 1040 for 2022 and you have a few 1099s for audio gear, just show that you sold each item at a loss. It's really that simple. Nobody will pay taxes on hobby items that they bought and subsequently sold at a loss.

Have a beer. Listen to some Trip Hop. It's going to be OK.



I have yet to make a single penny of profit form selling audio gear.

AudioGone is an apt descriptor  



Lots of high end discontinued gear getting more expensive with time. The proofs are all around: vintage phono carts and NOS tubes, rare discontinued cables, OPPO Players…. For example discontinued Cambridge CXU price got almost twice more expensive than original price 5 years ago. 

So, if you buy a piece of gear for $1,000 and sell it for $1,500 you have a $500 profit. Depending on your tax bracket you would owe between zero and $185 (37%) in income tax. You might owe some state income tax as well depending on where you live. Would anyone here find this offensive? Paying around $200 in income tax because a statistical outlier of a piece of gear appreciated?


This is a nothing cheeseburger...its not a big deal to pay income tax as a hobbyist if you get lucky and something appreciates. If its a big deal, start a business, pay the fees necessary and set up shop. It looks easy and is hard as heck to make money in the audio business.




You can pay a few dollars in income tax on the absolutely rare occurrence that a couple of items here or there MIGHT have appreciated enough to generate a profit. Senseless handwringing.