Poll: Naim owners, what cabling are you using? DIN? RCA? NACA5? Other?

Loving the sound of my recently acquired XS-2 (60wpc version) and CD5x. Currently using Mogami W3082 speaker cable and Mogami W2549 RCA interconnects. Speakers are Vandersteen 2C's. I know... Vandersteen, right? But the combo actually sounds really good together. I know too I can post this on the Naim forum (which I might do someday soon) but wanted to post here first on A-gon to see what if there is a consensus. I'm curious as to what cabling other Naim owners ended up going with, and if they went through "the comparing phase" of cabling when first getting their components?

I've been reading and getting feedback that DIN is the best connection method for Naim gear. I did pick up a used original Naim 5-pin DIN to DIN interconnect (gray color) to start my own comparisons. I then heard the later Lavender interconnect is the better of the two. I should have the cable by week's end. 

As for the NACA5 speaker cable, it seems folks either love or hate it. There is a company called Witch Hat Audio that makes naim-specified cables and interconnects and is reportedly very good. In fact, this company is owned/ran by ex-Naim engineers. Anyone have any experience with their cables? Seems a lot of owner's use Chord as well. 

Even looking at the technical specs of the NACA5, the Mogami W3082 I'm using is much higher in capacitance (253pF/m) vs. the Naim, which is 16.5pF/m. I realize the speaker cable requirement isn't an issue with the newer Naim components, but I was curious to see if there is a Mogami cable with closer figures. W3103 for example, has a capacitance of 93pF/m at 1kHz, and 83pF/m at 10kHz. That's a pretty big drop from W3082. W3103 is a pretty popular cable, along with W3082 and W3104. Also, I'm not that tech savy, so I'm not sure what all this really means. 

@jsbach1685 - I’m a naim lover :-)

At least I love their amps!
- some of their other source components are a little pricey for my budget.

Unfortunately, I have found that posting on the NAIM forum got me the typical "NAIM Follower" responce
- i.e. "Use NAIM cables only"
- so I no longer post anything on there.

I only have the Nait 5i (mkII) integrated amp with the passive pre-amp section and found that it performs way above it’s price point when treated to great cables.

Over the years I have tried many cable combinations, including the DIN connectors, which proved to be the worst method of connecting source components. I now used RCA cables across the board

For speaker cables I have tried commercial products from...
- Van den Hul CS-122 and D-352 for many years, which bettered the NACA5 for dynamics and detail
- I then had the opportunity to try gZero2 and gZero6 speaker cables from KLE Innovations, which blew away the VdH for clarity, dynamics and bass performance
- I have also tried a couple of other well known commercial brands, but the KLI Innovations product bested them.

For Interconnects I have tried cables from Van den Hul, Audioquest and Chord, but I found KLE Innovations gZero20 to provide te best bang for the buck. They no longer sell the gZero 20, but they do have better performing models listed on their web site

For Power Cables I have always used some version of my own DIY cable designs - the latest HELIX geometry has proved to be unbeatable.

I now use my own DIY Helix Cables throughout my system because they offer unparalleled clarity, dynamics and imaging.

I have had several people try my Helix cables with great success on systems ranging from a $350 mini system, to systems in excess of $70,000. The power cables even improve Video performance when used on TV's

Unfortunately I DO NOT make the Helix cables for others, because people have a tendancy to ask for very specific parts/wire, which can be complex to source - but I do share my designs, together with How-to instructions and I will answer any questions that may come up.

Here are the instructions on how to make the Helix cables...

The speaker cables are a terrific match for the NAIM amps, because they have very low capacitance, which eliminates the possibility of oscilation - a known issue with many high current design amps like NAIM.

On the same site you will see my reviews of many of the KLE Innovations products, so if you are not into DIY then give those a try - they are excellent products, good value and will outperfrom many other higher priced commercially available products in a side by side comparison.

If you have any questions on the Helix or KLEI products just ask

Regards - Steve
I think you can probably use any flatcap with the CD5s,  The flatcap, unlike the Hicap, has 2 outputs, so you can probably upgrade both, but I got out of the Naim game before your integrated came out.  My guess though, is that you might find more of an improvement using the flatcap exclusively on the CDx5, but you should experiment.  
@williewonka - as I recall, the little Nait did not require the use of Naim cables for extra inductance, which I believe is what prevented oscillation.  That's how I remember it.  So the issue is not low capacitance, but higher inductance that's necessary.  At least that's how I remember it. 
@chayro - here’s a link from the NAIM community forum

So the lack of Inductance in the outtput stage of NAIM amps requires a certain inductance to be present in the cables for the amp to perform correctly, but the high capacitance can destroy amps

Having exchanged emails wil NAIM support when I first got my 5i MKII amp - they stated categorically it is the capacitance element that drives an amp into oscilation not the inductance. But for best sound, cables with similar ratings to the NACA5 cables should be used

Here’s a link to a similar thread in another forum

Here’s what QED has to say about it...
Another factor to be considered with speaker cables is amplifier stability. In some cases, a little extra capacitance at the output can make an amplifier oscillate, overheat and even self-destruct. Or it may oscillate momentarily at high radio frequencies during operation and show no obvious symptoms.
From their web site:

On the practical side - A friend actually did destroy both his Ayre and Gryphon amps (both high current designs) using high capacitance speaker cables. Once he got them repaired he changed his cables and now all is well

The interesting thing about this particular topic of conversation is...
- the amp companies know about this issue
- the speaker cable companies know about this issue
- very few technicians seem to know about this issue
- retail outlets know NOTHING of this issue
- AND no one warns the consumer about it

There used to be a page on the NAIM web site warning about this issue, but it appears to have been removed..

PLEASE NOTE - it is ONLY high current SOLID STATE designs that have any type of issue with High Capacitance speaker cables

Tube amps are just fine - i.e. to my current level of knowledge

Regards - Steve

I'm using Mogami with no issues. It's very good with Naim and Harbeth. Am I looking for better? Of course.