recommend PRAT Integrated amplifiers (not Naim)

what are some modern integrated amps in the 5-10k range that offer a heavy dose of PRAT

not seeking anything Naim

for some frame of reference, was recently recommended Rega Aethos and Hegel H590...neither had the PRAT of my NAD C298 power amp (which is not an ntegrated and had some harshness to it)

please and thanks

Is the Yamaha A-S3200 or Bryston B135 known for PRAT?  Simaudio maybe?






some good suggestion thanks

seeking solid state

some of these listed though suggests lack of experience with this

Luxman is definetley not considered a PRAT type sound and I've owned or listened to most of their gear made in the past ten years

Rega  OSRIS or anything Rega is a fail in this regard too

PRAT (Rhythm, Pace and Timing) or Rhythm and Pace, refer to the musical engaging aspect of reproduced music. Most easily identified by how much a system makes you want to tap your foot or move with the music… well done PRAT is physically and musically engaging, as opposed to analytical sound that is sterile and perhaps intellectually interesting. Many high end systems lack PRAT. Often, but not always tube systems tend to offen better PRAT.


This may be one of the most important, but also difficult aspects of sound reproduction to perceive. It probably took me thirty years to develop a sense of it. Now, it is about the first thing I sense. Lots of folks never develop a sense for it because they go out on a quest to hear more details and get better slam and then improve imaging and Transparency and end up wondering why their system is not engaging. Along the way they lost the PRAT.

I asked CHatGPT to define:

PRAT stands for Pace, Rhythm, and Timing in the context of audio. It is a term used to describe the dynamic qualities of music playback and how well a system reproduces the temporal aspects of the audio signal.

  1. Pace: Refers to the speed or tempo of the music. A system with good pace is able to convey the intended speed of the music without sounding rushed or sluggish.

  2. Rhythm: Relates to the pattern of beats or the groove of the music. A system with good rhythm accurately reproduces the rhythmic elements of the music, allowing the listener to feel the natural flow and energy.

  3. Timing: Involves the precision of when musical events occur. A system with good timing accurately reproduces the timing of various elements in the music, ensuring that notes start and stop at the right moments, creating a cohesive and well-coordinated sonic experience.

When audiophiles or audio enthusiasts discuss PRAT, they are typically evaluating how well an audio system can handle these elements, providing a more engaging and lifelike listening experience.

@jmarini2 It's term given to qualities that golden ears think they can discern. Much like sightings of Bigfoot. It's meaningless.

Hey the science stooges just showed up.  The ASR(AssesStoogesRetrobates) crowd to try and spread their disinformation.  

Go back to your own website where you will be appreciated secretguy.  Your nonsense is not needed here.

PRAT is a real thing. It’s just a subjective real thing. If you care about it and it helps then fine. If not fine as well. It’s the old different strokes story. Whether one cares or not will likely lead one down radically different paths. FBOFW. Part of the fun is to just try things because you want to, not necessarily because there is any robust science applied in the decision making process. It’s a hobby and hobbies are fun. To each their own.

I’ll reiterate my Deja Vu Audio recommendation. They should be called house of PRAT because that is what makes them unique as a result of their strong retro focus and very good at getting toes tapping in a traditional manner effectively at various price points.  I’ve heard their wares and I am a fan.