Psychanimal, Peace!
Salsa appeals to my feet and my ears; the son hits me in the heart and spirit.
Now, you may want to define "jazz elements", the son has had what is usually refered to as Jazz since the 19th century. As in New Orleans, this is the sound of French instruments played by Creolles. They were brough over by French colonials fleeing the slave rebellion in Haiti. My great gradparents on my father's side are from this batch.
Latin Jazz is the fusion between Cuban brass and American brass (Jazz).
As an aside, listen for the Chinese coronet, introduced by Chinese workeres brought in when slavery was outlawed to work the cane fields, and others that migrated after building the RR's in the US.
Listen to Matamoros or Estudinatina Invasora, you will hear brass in the son, altough you are correct in that the 'classic' son does not use them. The classic son (which dates to the mid 18th century) is the tres and the clave, but it has many, many facets including brass and piano (predominantly montuno beats are piano).
Btw, Salsa is indeed a spinoff of the Son (mostly of the Son Montuno). Celia will tell you that herself (she even says she's still a sonera).
Do a bit of reseach and you will see. This is indeed a wonderful genre of music and I think you will be pleasently surprised in that you (and myself, for that matter) have only begun to scrach the surface.
here's a nice brief article (in Spanish):
http://comosuena.com/articulos/son.htm
and one in English:
http://www.salsacrazy.com/salsaroots/roots_son.htm
I have enjoyed this discussion, and I am very interested in specific recordings you might suggest re:Celia Cruz. I have loved her stuff with Tito, but not her 'solo' albums or what she's done with Colon.
In turn, I would be more than happy to suggest some great son recordings.
Salsa is full of energy and life, but... el son es lo mas sublime para el alma divertir.
me voy... me voy...
KP
Salsa appeals to my feet and my ears; the son hits me in the heart and spirit.
Now, you may want to define "jazz elements", the son has had what is usually refered to as Jazz since the 19th century. As in New Orleans, this is the sound of French instruments played by Creolles. They were brough over by French colonials fleeing the slave rebellion in Haiti. My great gradparents on my father's side are from this batch.
Latin Jazz is the fusion between Cuban brass and American brass (Jazz).
As an aside, listen for the Chinese coronet, introduced by Chinese workeres brought in when slavery was outlawed to work the cane fields, and others that migrated after building the RR's in the US.
Listen to Matamoros or Estudinatina Invasora, you will hear brass in the son, altough you are correct in that the 'classic' son does not use them. The classic son (which dates to the mid 18th century) is the tres and the clave, but it has many, many facets including brass and piano (predominantly montuno beats are piano).
Btw, Salsa is indeed a spinoff of the Son (mostly of the Son Montuno). Celia will tell you that herself (she even says she's still a sonera).
Do a bit of reseach and you will see. This is indeed a wonderful genre of music and I think you will be pleasently surprised in that you (and myself, for that matter) have only begun to scrach the surface.
here's a nice brief article (in Spanish):
http://comosuena.com/articulos/son.htm
and one in English:
http://www.salsacrazy.com/salsaroots/roots_son.htm
I have enjoyed this discussion, and I am very interested in specific recordings you might suggest re:Celia Cruz. I have loved her stuff with Tito, but not her 'solo' albums or what she's done with Colon.
In turn, I would be more than happy to suggest some great son recordings.
Salsa is full of energy and life, but... el son es lo mas sublime para el alma divertir.
me voy... me voy...
KP