Redbook CD Is Not Dead


There are dozens of variant of this topic. Nevertheless, I want to start this OP to "defibrillate" an "old" technology -- "redbook" CD. I have posted many comments and questions about the next industry digital/electronic "standard" that old-heads like me should be thinking about. The responses sound like techno-babble. That of course presupposes that redbook CD has seen a better day. A similar view was expressed years ago by many about vinyl, but that technology is still with us.

Ok ... to the point. I wanted to test the proposition that some have made about redbook CD -- 16 bit/44.1K Hz. Specifically, that the technology is NOT obsolete. By contrast, if the music industry was less lazy and profit driven, and we the consumer less tolerant, redbook CD and our trusty CD players have lots of life left in them. Here's a thoughtful and largely understandable link that a member posted in another OP that explains the hypothesis:

http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

So ... to start testing the hypothesis, I logged onto the Acoustic Sounds music website. Here's the link:

http://store.acousticsounds.com/

Acoustic Sounds sells many so called hi-rez redbook CDs, e.g., "Gold," "HDCD," "Super HDCD 24 bit," and so forth. I bought 2 such CDs: (1) The Artistry of Linda Rosenthal, (First Impression Music, Inc.) (CD FIM 022VD) and (2) Jim Croce, Words and Music, (DCC Compact Disc Classics) (GZS-1134). First reactions are -- quite impressive. I'll continue to listen and report back.

I see no reason to trash a piece of equipment, or a technology, if it still has utility and can deliver the sonic goods. I will come back later with a music review of the Linda Rosenthal and Jim Croce CDs. I would like others to do the same, especially if they can suggest a good source of high-quality/almost vinyl quality redbook CD.

I will ask in advance that all member posts stay on topic. There are many threads that discuss the pros and cons of this versus that format or technology. Please keep such discussions in those other threads.

I would like to see a thread devoted to music reviews and sources of excellent quality redbook CD. Perhaps this thread and others like it will rejuvenate an older music medium that can still satisfy.

Thanks all.

Bruce
bifwynne
I think one reason that you appreciate the value of redbook is because you own a very good dedicated player. It's quite amazing how much is contained in the redbook format if you have a player capable of digging it out. And in my experience, that doesn't come cheap.

As for media, I've recently been very impressed by MA Recordings. I purchased the Goldberg Variations, Mozart, Works From His Golden Age, and a couple of other classical selections that I think would dispel many listeners' belief that redbook is sonically limited. Highly recommended from both a musical and sonic standpoint.
I successfully use the website Classics Today to find good classical CDs. Researching the archives section for 10/10 ratings (Recording/Performance) consistently yields excellent results. Many of those recordings will surprise listners with their quality. And they are plentiful.
IMHO, everything one has to do to get into computer audio sounds like punishment to me. I'll stick with my redbook and siding with what Chayro says about "a very good dedicated player", one of these days I'll grab one.
Chayro,
Your first paragraph succinctly nails it! Amazing sound is available via Red book with use of a "good" player. Bifwynne I've found the vast majority of jazz CD recordings to be very good regardless of the label. Verve for an example consistently produces excellent sounding jazz.
Charles,
Many good points made here. I tweaked 2009 Mac Mini and added some very nice ancillary gear to use with the Mini I read about on Computer Audiophile. Big deal. I still love playing CD's (and SACD's). I have had more than a few occasions where I wanted to throw computer audio gear out the window, but I've never felt the urge to pitch my non-computer gear. The heads-up about searching 10/10 CD (and SACD) recordings on Classics Today is a good one and I've been doing that for years. Audiophile Audition has some nice disc reviews too. If you're older/less tech savvy and want to test the limits of your patience, try that PS3/software workaround for ripping your SACD's. A real time waster (and money waster if you buy a bum PS3 off eBay).