Schroder sq and the new talea

This is all a bad dream right?

I'm waiting for a post by Bob Newhart

Just from reading this description I can see that this book is a product of modern philosophy - it commits all the same errors. For one, the notion of something beyond reality (as perceived and understood by man's consciousness) with no evidence or argument supporting this notion, which implies that man's mind (reason) is impotent and we should blindly accept this "Being". And what does he mean when he states he wants to "transform consciousness"? Humans are entities of a specific nature - as with all entities the law of identity applies (Aristotle)to us - including our consciousness which operates by specific means (concepts) to understand reality. How is he going to "transform" that?

Canam, I recommend you try reading it before you assume that this is about philosophy. There seems to be an underlying assumption in a number of posts here that the ability to silence the mind's endless chatter ('inner dialogue' as it is often known- if it is a dialogue, to whom is the mind conversing?) is somehow the same as being unable to perceive.

Indeed, Dertonarm says:

Well, we have seen a good many politicians - each side of the Atlantic - the past years who proved themselves "true experts" in the described process to silence any thought ( in themselves...). However - if it lead to any positive results for them or us, then I missed it...... I sometimes stood frozen in absolute amazement, but that wasn't really going hand-in-hand with any positive feeling.

Which might have been an attempt at humor; its only my opinion of course but most politicians to me seem merely thoughtless, not at all what I am talking about :)

What I **am** talking about is the occasional moments when you might be driving, and come around a turn or the like, and are suddenly presented with a majestic vista of stunning beauty; or seeing for the first time a truly red tulip in spring; or hearing something of great beauty in a musical piece, wherein for an instant, the beauty of the experience is so stunning that the inner chatter of the mind shuts down, and you are allowed to be in the present, in the Now, without a worry of the future or the past. It might only be for an instant, a second or two, before the mind starts up again with something like 'wow- nice sunset!' or the like. But for a few seconds, the mind stopped its chatter (which is entirely different from the brain being somehow inactive BTW) and one is allowed to to experience the sublime.

Although not the only one to do so by any means (I used his example because it is easy to find), Eckhart Tolle presents a simple technique to allow you to experience being in the Now a little more often.

The science behind it is that if you can silence the inner dialogue (and after a while the mind seems to figure out that there is a benefit to this, so it gets easier to do), the brainwave frequency drops much like it does in meditation (hence your increased creative abilities, essential even with engineering), except that you can have your eyes open and be doing things, even be talking to a friend! This has nothing to do with philosophy or religion, BTW, nor is Mr. Tolle the only such proponent. The bottom line is though that it is simple to do and you might want to at least attempt it before dismissing it.

Derto: on the arm, you are right of course. But, my capitalist self just spent $500 on repair and $500 on NOS tubes and I'm fiscally groping like a fish out of water...so, of course, my addiction is looking for a nudge. On looking for opinion, I know, but I really do think that you guys have some great experience. Its always in context, but I think that I can see within that. On US/Eur: yes, well put. And, yes, I humbly apologize for the Confederate remnants of my American brethren. :0) Every empire that goes up must come down...

Nandric: on your "very interesting to know that sheeps are no objects." No that's funny!! I got a good laugh. Not at you, and I know you were being, uh, ironical (I'm here stealing material from the movie, "Good Will Hunting"), but it was funny nonetheless. But you gotts know, when someone can't tell that I'm not talking about Cartesianism when I'm talkng about trans-cognitive perception, I have to make sure on these things.

Audiofeil: oh yea, much worse than that! Newhart - perfect choice.

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Hey Ralph, did you see that nice example of your MP-1 that listed yesterday at $7500? Gone now, but I have to tell you if I wasn't hopelessly in love with my own pre I would have jumped at that. Matched witn that LAMM 1.1 hybrid monos that just listed and for @$15K combined you'd have one nice rig (I know, but OTLS have too many fire-bottles for me...this is no comment on tube reliability, just my trauma peering out from a Jadis Defy experience years ago).

Dear friends: Very interesting thread with so many " angles " touched and till now IMHO no precise unanimous conclusions.

Even that and thinking on the universal tonearm I think Dertonarm put the " finger where it hurts " when posted:

+++++ " The market NEVER asks for a perfect solution. " ++++

as a fact IMHO almost no one cares about and does not cares because poor knowledge on the subject, no money to buy a " perfect " high price audio items or simply because he is not looking for any more but what already had/has.

The level of satisfaction in audio in many people is really poor, many people even with high price audio systems that performs " so so " are satisfied with because its music/sound knowledge is low and they can't ask for more.

I posted several times that we read magazines audio reviews that raven very high very poor designed audio items and the worst is that not only reviewers but the more important part in the audio market: customers that raven too very poor designed audio items with poor quality performance but where customers are " satisfied ".

If the audio customers applaud an audio item that shows mediocrity: which is the message to that audio item designer/builder for future designs? when he already knows that the customers are satisfied with his poor design and are ready to pay/paid high $$$$ for those products.

As a high end customers almost all of us IMHO are a " shame of customers ", we have what we ask for that we " win " to deserve it.

How can we wait that almost all audio items designers ( there are exceptions. that already did and do it ) can give us better near " perfect " audio items designs if we are not asking for or we are not prepare for because our low knowledge and poor satisfaction level?

I'm sure that if we customers improve on the whole subject and reject poor audio items designs then the audio high end not only improve but could grow up faster in benefit of all of us.

I know that some audio items designers could give us a lot better designs: tonearms, cartridges, electronics, TT, etc, etc., but why to take the effort to achieve that? whom really cares? whom is/are asking for?: ALMOST NO ONE!!!!

That's why the audio high end IMHO is in many ways motionless/standing with no real hope to " keep walking " again. There are exceptions and these " rare " exceptions only confirm the " rule ".

It is a shame but at the same time very sad that like in this thread instead to talk on the " evolution/revolution " characteristics of an audio item we are talking on a similar items of what already found in the audio market ( for years ) and talk on philosophy subjects instead that " revolutionary " audio item like could be a " universal tonearm " for example.

In this thread we are thinking only that in the 2011 RMAF could be ashootout between the MK2 or MK 3 versions of the today tonearms instead to think to find out in that time not only new tonearms but " universal " tonearms: this IMHO is what we customers could be thinking about. Come on!, wake up!!!!

Anyway, good fun thread.

Regards and enjoy the music,
Raul.