Taters, I have never been to Sound By Singer, though I have seen Andy strutting around CES (if you've seen him, you know what I mean ;-), but went to Lyric in '83 when I lived in Flushing, Queens. I was already an ARC/Magneplanar owner, and was interested in seeing if Lyric had anything I might like even more. You know---whatta ya got? The guy at the door as much as asked me what I was there to buy. No browsing, purchases only! Hey, I understand a low tolerance for lookiloos and tire kickers, but if they don't feel obligated to demo any products, how do they justify making their forty points? Christopher Hansen Ltd. was the same kind of operation.